Comments on: Images of the Invaders http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049 Sat, 06 May 2006 15:36:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: Sherri http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3473 Sat, 06 May 2006 07:39:27 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3473 Jasmin and Ashamed American: God is probably disappointed with all of the fighting among His children all over the world. But He certainly doesn't approve of anyone breaking the law to suit their purposes, either. He expects us all to obey His laws as well as Caesar's. No one is perfect, and we all have something to answer to Him about. But don't use God as a means of trying to guilt people into kow towing to illegal aliens who come here and tell us what we owe them. We owe them nothing! If things are bad in their country, they need to change things there, not come here and demand things they're not entitled to. Jasmin and Ashamed American:

God is probably disappointed with all of the fighting among His children all over the world. But He certainly doesn’t approve of anyone breaking the law to suit their purposes, either. He expects us all to obey His laws as well as Caesar’s. No one is perfect, and we all have something to answer to Him about. But don’t use God as a means of trying to guilt people into kow towing to illegal aliens who come here and tell us what we owe them. We owe them nothing! If things are bad in their country, they need to change things there, not come here and demand things they’re not entitled to.

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by: Jasmin Mejia http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3461 Sat, 06 May 2006 03:53:24 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3461 To tell you the truth Educated American I don't think there is a win win situation for either the border protectors and the ilegals crossers. In the end, both sides will get screwed. Like you said. it will problaly drive wages in some areas. (I say in some areas because I personally know illegals that are competing at the same levels as educated americans as yourself) But beleive this, those at the top of the pyramid will find a way to get the best deal of cheap labor from illegals. So, all I can do is pray and hope this doesn't become a warzone. To tell you the truth Educated American
I don’t think there is a win win situation for either the border protectors and the ilegals crossers.
In the end, both sides will get screwed.
Like you said. it will problaly drive wages in some areas.
(I say in some areas because I personally know illegals that are competing at the same levels as educated americans as yourself)
But beleive this, those at the top of the pyramid will find a way to get the best deal of cheap labor from illegals.
So, all I can do is pray and hope this doesn’t become a warzone.

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by: Educated American http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3450 Sat, 06 May 2006 00:17:07 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3450 Hey Jasmin and Ashamed American: You keep invoking God. One's spiritual beleifs have little to do with what is at stake with the immigration issue. One's religious beliefs won't bring back $20 per hour skilled-labor jobs to American workers. Praying real hard won't reduce American school classrooms from 40(!) kids back down to 30 or 25. Invoking moral arguments will not re-open American hospitals that have closed because of the strain from virtually free medical care given to illegal immigrants. Citing Bible passages will not alter the fact that nearly 30% of all Federal prisoners in America are illegal aliens. (I find that statistic staggering!) My heart is with you on issues of respect, dignity, and humane treatment of people in need. There is good to be found in your beliefs, I have no doubt. However, we as Americans of endlessly diverse racial, cultural, and religious background have a more-or-less life-and-death stake in keeping our American Republic alive and thriving. As if it were not bad enough that our OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS are undermining our nation (about 85% - 90% I'd say), but to have groups like La Raza, MEChA, and The Mexica Movement wanting to do the same - by using illegal aliens as leverage - that's just too much to take. Open borders are the weapons of the Global Corporatists, as well as the Reconquistas. This is actually a somewhat complex issue when you look at all the forces at work. The solution is simple: close our borders and ports to all illegal immigration. (After that, We the People have a boatload of house cleaning to do in terms of restoring Constitutional government.) Back to religion. Here's what some smart, smart American guys had to say on the subject: "The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine." - George Washington "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson "I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."- Thomas Jefferson " I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My mind is my own church." - Thomas Paine "The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." - Abraham Lincoln Hey Jasmin and Ashamed American: You keep invoking God. One’s spiritual beleifs have little to do with what is at stake with the immigration issue. One’s religious beliefs won’t bring back $20 per hour skilled-labor jobs to American workers. Praying real hard won’t reduce American school classrooms from 40(!) kids back down to 30 or 25. Invoking moral arguments will not re-open American hospitals that have closed because of the strain from virtually free medical care given to illegal immigrants. Citing Bible passages will not alter the fact that nearly 30% of all Federal prisoners in America are illegal aliens. (I find that statistic staggering!)

My heart is with you on issues of respect, dignity, and humane treatment of people in need. There is good to be found in your beliefs, I have no doubt.

However, we as Americans of endlessly diverse racial, cultural, and religious background have a more-or-less life-and-death stake in keeping our American Republic alive and thriving. As if it were not bad enough that our OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS are undermining our nation (about 85% - 90% I’d say), but to have groups like La Raza, MEChA, and The Mexica Movement wanting to do the same - by using illegal aliens as leverage - that’s just too much to take. Open borders are the weapons of the Global Corporatists, as well as the Reconquistas. This is actually a somewhat complex issue when you look at all the forces at work. The solution is simple: close our borders and ports to all illegal immigration. (After that, We the People have a boatload of house cleaning to do in terms of restoring Constitutional government.)

Back to religion. Here’s what some smart, smart American guys had to say on the subject:

“The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine.”
- George Washington

“It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” - Thomas Jefferson

“I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”- Thomas Jefferson

” I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My mind is my own church.” - Thomas Paine

“The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.” - Abraham Lincoln

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by: Jasmin Mejia http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3447 Fri, 05 May 2006 23:25:26 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3447 Legal American My son in law crossed the Laredo border with an passport that later expired. If you can donate money to kill Iraqi children and women It doesn't really matter if it now goes to illegals or welfare mothers. You are telling these illegals to take care of their country But you Legal American can't even take care of your own country. USA is just as fucked up as Mexico. WAKE UP Moron!!!! No Healthcare!! Killing 100,000 Iraqi for oil!!! Soldiers coming back with no dick ,legs, arms ect.... Wake up Moron!! The only diffrence between Mexico and US is the paved streets and the housing. You yourselve are a slave to the elite. You are at the same level as those illegals. Maybe in your sorry mind you think you are better. Look in the mirror and don't bite your tongue. Legal American
My son in law crossed the Laredo border with an passport that later expired. If you can donate money to kill Iraqi children and women
It doesn’t really matter if it now goes to illegals or welfare mothers.
You are telling these illegals to take care of their country
But you Legal American can’t even take care of your own country.
USA is just as fucked up as Mexico. WAKE UP Moron!!!!
No Healthcare!! Killing 100,000 Iraqi for oil!!!
Soldiers coming back with no dick ,legs, arms ect….
Wake up Moron!! The only diffrence between Mexico and US
is the paved streets and the housing.

You yourselve are a slave to the elite. You are at the same level as those illegals. Maybe in your sorry mind you think you are better. Look in the mirror and don’t bite your tongue.

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by: LEGAL American http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3443 Fri, 05 May 2006 20:47:35 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3443 Jasmin: Where has God demanded that his children have to feed, clothe, and house those who aren't willing to do it themselves? He didn't. Matter of fact, since you are choosing to overlook mans laws, we are to keep away from those people who refuse to do anything for themselves: 2 Thessalonians 3:6-10 6In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching[a] you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. 10For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat." 11We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. 13And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right. 14If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. 15Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother. Now.... I donate every chance I can. I happily donate to causes I think deserve it. Children's causes, meals on wheels... ect. American's aren't given a CHOICE to decide if they want to 'donate' to illegal welfare mothers. American's aren't given the choice to decide if we want to feed, clothe and house illegals who don't WANT to do it for themselves. American's aren't given the choice to 'donate' money to the families who come here, pop out babies, and then go to the welfare office demanding something. American's aren't given that choice. I want that choice. You say this "When I see God, I want my hands filled with the poor people I’ve invited into my bank account." Would you say that if someone scammed you? What about if they forged your checks? After, they were just poor people who were in need, right? "As of last weekend, my daughter married one of those illegal aliens you would like to protect us from. Forgive me if I don’t want my son-in-law deported. One more thing: he owns a home, pays taxes and hasn’t robbed, raped or murdered anyone that I know of. " Quite frankly then... your daughter is now aiding and abetting a criminal. Your new son-in-law hasen't " robbed, raped or murdered anyone that I know of. " THAT YOU KNOW OF????? You HAVE GOT to be kidding right?? THIS is one of the reason's so many people have problems with illegals. We CAN'T know. He had to cross someone's land. Did you ever ask him where he crossed at? He could have been trespassing on a private owner's land. That would be another crime he committed. How long has he been here? It is against the law for him to be here even 1 day. Every day he is here is ANOTHER crime he is committing. If he really is such an up standing person then please explain to me why he refused/refuses to do it the right way like sooooo many people do everyday. Better yet, since you believe he's so great... go right ahead and call ICE and tell them how great he is. Be sure to let them know his name and where he is. Jasmin: Where has God demanded that his children have to feed, clothe, and house those who aren’t willing to do it themselves? He didn’t. Matter of fact, since you are choosing to overlook mans laws, we are to keep away from those people who refuse to do anything for themselves:

2 Thessalonians 3:6-10
6In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching[a] you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you to follow. 10For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.”
11We hear that some among you are idle. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 12Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. 13And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right.

14If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. 15Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.

Now…. I donate every chance I can. I happily donate to causes I think deserve it. Children’s causes, meals on wheels… ect. American’s aren’t given a CHOICE to decide if they want to ‘donate’ to illegal welfare mothers. American’s aren’t given the choice to decide if we want to feed, clothe and house illegals who don’t WANT to do it for themselves. American’s aren’t given the choice to ‘donate’ money to the families who come here, pop out babies, and then go to the welfare office demanding something. American’s aren’t given that choice. I want that choice.

You say this “When I see God, I want my hands filled with the poor people I’ve invited into my bank account.” Would you say that if someone scammed you? What about if they forged your checks? After, they were just poor people who were in need, right?

“As of last weekend, my daughter married one of those illegal aliens you would like to protect us from. Forgive me if I don’t want my son-in-law deported. One more thing: he owns a home, pays taxes and hasn’t robbed, raped or murdered anyone that I know of. ”

Quite frankly then… your daughter is now aiding and abetting a criminal. Your new son-in-law hasen’t ” robbed, raped or murdered anyone that I know of. ” THAT YOU KNOW OF????? You HAVE GOT to be kidding right?? THIS is one of the reason’s so many people have problems with illegals. We CAN’T know. He had to cross someone’s land. Did you ever ask him where he crossed at? He could have been trespassing on a private owner’s land. That would be another crime he committed. How long has he been here? It is against the law for him to be here even 1 day. Every day he is here is ANOTHER crime he is committing.

If he really is such an up standing person then please explain to me why he refused/refuses to do it the right way like sooooo many people do everyday. Better yet, since you believe he’s so great… go right ahead and call ICE and tell them how great he is. Be sure to let them know his name and where he is.

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by: Ron http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3439 Fri, 05 May 2006 20:33:05 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3439 God these liberal, left-wing, socialist, we are the world, open borders freaks(ashamed/Jasmine) make me sick. Fortunately, the race card has been recognized by the masses/citizens as the last gasp of the desperate Mexicans/invaders that it is and does not stifle illegal immigration discussions from taken place anymore. So, now they invoke god into the issue. Your desperate and you have no rational position, so now god is the answer. Where in scriptor does it state that the United States has no right to sovereignty, and decide who can immigrate to this country, and that Americans have a responsibility to provide for the needs of foreigners whose own countries disgard them like unwanted trash. Have you freaks every heard of the seperation of church and state. Oh, yeah that's just one of thoughs pesky laws that you and your agenda don't have to recognize, like are immigration laws. Take your open borders, pro-illegal alien arguments to the La Raza, MECHA, or LULAC discussion boards there are Americans hear trying to discuss how to deport the invaders and treasonous so-called Americans like yourselves. God these liberal, left-wing, socialist, we are the world, open borders freaks(ashamed/Jasmine) make me sick. Fortunately, the race card has been recognized by the masses/citizens as the last gasp of the desperate Mexicans/invaders that it is and does not stifle illegal immigration discussions from taken place anymore. So, now they invoke god into the issue. Your desperate and you have no rational position, so now god is the answer. Where in scriptor does it state that the United States has no right to sovereignty, and decide who can immigrate to this country, and that Americans have a responsibility to provide for the needs of foreigners whose own countries disgard them like unwanted trash.

Have you freaks every heard of the seperation of church and state. Oh, yeah that’s just one of thoughs pesky laws that you and your agenda don’t have to recognize, like are immigration laws. Take your open borders, pro-illegal alien arguments to the La Raza, MECHA, or LULAC discussion boards there are Americans hear trying to discuss how to deport the invaders and treasonous so-called Americans like yourselves.

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by: Mary http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3438 Fri, 05 May 2006 20:28:48 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3438 Also, ashamed american, why are you pro-illegal people so obsessed with race, race, race? I said nothing about skin color in my post -- you were the one who brought it up. It's all you ever talk about, race, race, race! This is not about race, this is about preserving our country and its laws, the same laws that make it a better place to live than Mexico or some other god-forsaken hellhole. Take away those laws and we become just like those god-forsaken hellholes. All you care about, all you talk about, is skin color and race, race and skin color. You don't care about our flag, our Constitution, democracy, our laws, our beloved country, or our freedoms. What a sad place we have come to in this country; I weep for my nation and my formerly beautiful state. Also, ashamed american, why are you pro-illegal people so obsessed with race, race, race? I said nothing about skin color in my post — you were the one who brought it up.

It’s all you ever talk about, race, race, race! This is not about race, this is about preserving our country and its laws, the same laws that make it a better place to live than Mexico or some other god-forsaken hellhole. Take away those laws and we become just like those god-forsaken hellholes.

All you care about, all you talk about, is skin color and race, race and skin color. You don’t care about our flag, our Constitution, democracy, our laws, our beloved country, or our freedoms. What a sad place we have come to in this country; I weep for my nation and my formerly beautiful state.

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by: Mary http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3436 Fri, 05 May 2006 20:19:48 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3436 No, ashamed American, you are the one who is wrong. I am not asamed of loving my country and wanting to protect it and its Constitution and laws. We have seen the illegal marchers shouting their Communist slogans, waving their Mexican flags and wearing their Marxist T-shirts while brazenly demanding the "right" to break our laws and steal our welfare benefits meant for our own poor people. They are not humble when they ask for the benefits of this country -- they don't ask -- they demand, rudely and nastily and hatefully. They mean us and our country no good, no good at all, and nothing good will come from importing so many of these angry, bitter and demanding people into our nation in contravention of our laws. Jasmin doesn't care about the welfare of this country. She cares about her own people, puts her own people ahead of this nation and its laws, she cares nothing about this country. She cares nothing about the millions of people who shed their blood to defend this country and make it a free and decent place to live, look how cheaply she holds its citizenship and its laws. Jasmin you can always go to Mexico and build a school or a hospital there with your own money, if you are so concerned about the poor people of Mexico and their lack of education. But you won't because you only want to spend other people's money, not your own, in your pursuit of charity and sanctimoniousness. No, ashamed American, you are the one who is wrong. I am not asamed of loving my country and wanting to protect it and its Constitution and laws.

We have seen the illegal marchers shouting their Communist slogans, waving their Mexican flags and wearing their Marxist T-shirts while brazenly demanding the “right” to break our laws and steal our welfare benefits meant for our own poor people. They are not humble when they ask for the benefits of this country — they don’t ask — they demand, rudely and nastily and hatefully. They mean us and our country no good, no good at all, and nothing good will come from importing so many of these angry, bitter and demanding people into our nation in contravention of our laws.

Jasmin doesn’t care about the welfare of this country. She cares about her own people, puts her own people ahead of this nation and its laws, she cares nothing about this country. She cares nothing about the millions of people who shed their blood to defend this country and make it a free and decent place to live, look how cheaply she holds its citizenship and its laws.

Jasmin you can always go to Mexico and build a school or a hospital there with your own money, if you are so concerned about the poor people of Mexico and their lack of education. But you won’t because you only want to spend other people’s money, not your own, in your pursuit of charity and sanctimoniousness.

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by: The ashamed American http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3427 Fri, 05 May 2006 19:28:09 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3427 Jasmin is right. Mary you are wrong. In god everyone is the same. Who cares if there are mexican or white Illegal or not. You should know that as well as I do. And you are the one who should be ashamed not jasmine. Jasmin is right. Mary you are wrong. In god everyone is the same. Who cares if there are mexican or white Illegal or not. You should know that as well as I do. And you are the one who should be ashamed not jasmine.

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by: Eddie B. http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3415 Fri, 05 May 2006 18:46:49 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1049#comment-3415 Mr. Mehia - So did your illegal son-in-law bounce a middle class American out of the queue so he could get a Section 8 low income mortgage for his new house? ON OUR DIME? And who said the illegal imigrants were born in the wrong place? If these people coming to America spent their time and energy fixing the problems in the homelands that they are so fond of waving their flags for then you wouldn't need to sneak in here. As far as your son-in-law not robbing anyone, he has robbed immigrants who want to become legal citizens of their proper place in the queue for this priviledge. Don't you just hate it when some obnoxous person butts in ahead of you in any line? Didn't rob anyone? Tell that story some place else. Tell you what, head on down south and open up YOUR own hands and wallet. There are a lot of hands full of gimme and mouths full of much obliged. I am sure that God and the Catholic church will bless you for it. They take cash too. I work real hard for the earnings that I make. This is getting smaller every year. I pay 40% of what I earn in taxes. That's 40 friggin' percent. I don't need 20,000,000 moochers coming into my backyard demanding their rights and telling me what I owe them. Sorry. Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I am full. By the way, it is easy to tell the difference between God's children... the Mexicans are the folks waving the GREEN, WHITE and RED FLAGS. That's the way Americans see it. Personally I can't speak for God. Mr. Mehia -

So did your illegal son-in-law bounce a middle class American out of the queue so he could get a Section 8 low income mortgage for his new house? ON OUR DIME?

And who said the illegal imigrants were born in the wrong place? If these people coming to America spent their time and energy fixing the problems in the homelands that they are so fond of waving their flags for then you wouldn’t need to sneak in here.

As far as your son-in-law not robbing anyone, he has robbed immigrants who want to become legal citizens of their proper place in the queue for this priviledge. Don’t you just hate it when some obnoxous person butts in ahead of you in any line? Didn’t rob anyone? Tell that story some place else.

Tell you what, head on down south and open up YOUR own hands and wallet. There are a lot of hands full of gimme and mouths full of much obliged. I am sure that God and the Catholic church will bless you for it. They take cash too.

I work real hard for the earnings that I make. This is getting smaller every year. I pay 40% of what I earn in taxes. That’s 40 friggin’ percent. I don’t need 20,000,000 moochers coming into my backyard demanding their rights and telling me what I owe them. Sorry. Sell your snake oil somewhere else. I am full.

By the way, it is easy to tell the difference between God’s children… the Mexicans are the folks waving the GREEN, WHITE and RED FLAGS. That’s the way Americans see it. Personally I can’t speak for God.

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