Comments on: Illegal Aliens Will March In Patriots Day Parade - Minutemen Denied http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568 Sat, 06 May 2006 22:52:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: Brad http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-343 Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:24:27 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-343 I would say that if immigration laws are not enforced the civil war will be caused by the working class of Americans who are either unemployed or under employed. Sure Americans are better educated, but Slim you missed the point. If we are to be a country of laws and not of men, then the law has to apply to all people who are here. So many of you pro immigration people want the law to be enforced on Americans but want to exempt illegal aliens. Buy most estimates we have at least 10 million who have broken our immigration laws and the figure may go as high as 20 million. Sure these people have it tough in their home countries, but what incentive do they have to change their countries of origin, when they can come here. Sure everyone needs a job and the ability to support their families, but that does not excuse breaking the law to do so. If we had no immigration laws and everyone was allowed to come here, we would have millions of new residents each month. With increases of population comes increased physical needs for water, food, space & waste disposal. There is also the increased needs for social services like healthcare, education and welfare. The systems in this country can not even keep up with the current population, let alone millions of new people. Over 90% of the US population growth between the 1990 and 2000 census was due to immigrants and their children. While most of the American population is better educated than those who come here illegally, lets face facts. Not every American in this country has the ability to go to college. With just a highschool education and because of illegal immigration highschool grads are forced to compete with those who have no education from a foreign country. Now we have all heard the argument of "illegals do the jobs , American's won't do." I have been in the construction industry my entire life. Construction jobs were once the second largest part of the middle-class behind manufacturing. In the 60s, 70s and 80s skilled trade workers earned enough to purchase a home, take vacations, put their children thru college and retire. Buy the same token, many jobs in the service sector paid enough to allow workers to be above the poverty line. These were not jobs Americans wouldn't do, but jobs that Americans did and would continue to do if they paid a decent wage. Americans are not afraid to do hard nasty work, they just rightfully expect to be paid a decent wage, get workman’s comp and unemployment insurance. According to one US Ag department report (1990s) there are at any given time at least 250,000 more agricultural workers than there are agricultural jobs. I suspect that figure has grown. Each new wave of illegals displaces those who were here before them. Each new wave continues to depress the wages of the labor market they occupy. I would say that if immigration laws are not enforced the civil war will be caused by the working class of Americans who are either unemployed or under employed.
Sure Americans are better educated, but Slim you missed the point. If we are to be a country of laws and not of men, then the law has to apply to all people who are here. So many of you pro immigration people want the law to be enforced on Americans but want to exempt illegal aliens. Buy most estimates we have at least 10 million who have broken our immigration laws and the figure may go as high as 20 million.

Sure these people have it tough in their home countries, but what incentive do they have to change their countries of origin, when they can come here. Sure everyone needs a job and the ability to support their families, but that does not excuse breaking the law to do so.

If we had no immigration laws and everyone was allowed to come here, we would have millions of new residents each month. With increases of population comes increased physical needs for water, food, space & waste disposal. There is also the increased needs for social services like healthcare, education and welfare. The systems in this country can not even keep up with the current population, let alone millions of new people. Over 90% of the US population growth between the 1990 and 2000 census was due to immigrants and their children.

While most of the American population is better educated than those who come here illegally, lets face facts. Not every American in this country has the ability to go to college. With just a highschool education and because of illegal immigration highschool grads are forced to compete with those who have no education from a foreign country. Now we have all heard the argument of “illegals do the jobs , American’s won’t do.” I have been in the construction industry my entire life. Construction jobs were once the second largest part of the middle-class behind manufacturing. In the 60s, 70s and 80s skilled trade workers earned enough to purchase a home, take vacations, put their children thru college and retire. Buy the same token, many jobs in the service sector paid enough to allow workers to be above the poverty line. These were not jobs Americans wouldn’t do, but jobs that Americans did and would continue to do if they paid a decent wage. Americans are not afraid to do hard nasty work, they just rightfully expect to be paid a decent wage, get workman’s comp and unemployment insurance. According to one US Ag department report (1990s) there are at any given time at least 250,000 more agricultural workers than there are agricultural jobs. I suspect that figure has grown. Each new wave of illegals displaces those who were here before them. Each new wave continues to depress the wages of the labor market they occupy.

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by: contessa http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-327 Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:56:15 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-327 Slim, the issue is the law. Legal immigrants are welcome. Illegals are not and American citizens, legal immigrants, legal residents are tired of illegal immigrants and their advocates who have an audacious and false sense of entitlement to benefits/privileges/rewards of citizenship at the expense of law-abiding citizens and legal immigrants. There are many Latin Americans themselves who came here legally who are adamantly opposed to the invasion of Mexico's underclass and the accompanying lawlessness of that subculture. Get REAL, the rest of the Latin AMerican immigrants who came here legally don't want to live in Mexican "colonias" in the United States. We expect everyone to play by the rules, if not, then suffer the consequences or go home. In case you haven't heard, there are over 20,000 illegal immigrant gang members in MS-13 threatening our nation's communties, yes they are hard-working men engaged in violence, drug trafficking, prostitiution rings, human smuggling. There are thousands of illegal aliens that are unemployed, that's why they gather at these ridiculous day labor centers. They have no skills, no education, no English and are basically unemployable. They need to go home and protest Vicente Fox. He cunningly encouraged millions of Mexico's illiterate, unskilled underclass to come here illegally so that he can have 16 billion dollars/year in remittances pumped into the Mexican economy. Fox didn't have to spend any money on the health, education or welfare of this underclass, he just sent them over here for you and I to take care of. What a great neighbor, no wonder he doesn't want a "fence". Slim, the issue is the law. Legal immigrants are welcome. Illegals are not and American citizens, legal immigrants, legal residents are tired of illegal immigrants and their advocates who have an audacious and false sense of entitlement to benefits/privileges/rewards of citizenship at the expense of law-abiding citizens and legal immigrants. There are many Latin Americans themselves who came here legally who are adamantly opposed to the invasion of Mexico’s underclass and the accompanying lawlessness of that subculture. Get REAL, the rest of the Latin AMerican immigrants who came here legally don’t want to live in Mexican “colonias” in the United States. We expect everyone to play by the rules, if not, then suffer the consequences or go home. In case you haven’t heard, there are over 20,000 illegal immigrant gang members in MS-13 threatening our nation’s communties, yes they are hard-working men engaged in violence, drug trafficking, prostitiution rings, human smuggling. There are thousands of illegal aliens that are unemployed, that’s why they gather at these ridiculous day labor centers. They have no skills, no education, no English and are basically unemployable. They need to go home and protest Vicente Fox. He cunningly encouraged millions of Mexico’s illiterate, unskilled underclass to come here illegally so that he can have 16 billion dollars/year in remittances pumped into the Mexican economy. Fox didn’t have to spend any money on the health, education or welfare of this underclass, he just sent them over here for you and I to take care of. What a great neighbor, no wonder he doesn’t want a “fence”.

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by: Watchdog http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-326 Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:33:04 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-326 So if we enforce our immigration laws your "good hard working folks" are going to start a civil war, is that it? You go ahead and keep talking. Show John Q. Public who YOU really are. So if we enforce our immigration laws your “good hard working folks” are going to start a civil war, is that it?

You go ahead and keep talking. Show John Q. Public who YOU really are.

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by: Slim http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-325 Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:57:48 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-325 I was told that BB King once said that the bad people in Mississippi would have killed all the blacks had it not been for the many good white people. Perhaps slavery wouldn't have ended when it did had it not been for the many good white people who gave their lives to help end it. The same formula exists with immigrants. If you guys keep pushing it, you're going to awaken a sleeping giant. Try mass deportation. Enforce laws against employers to the extent that the millions of illegals can't get jobs and feed their families. Overturn the anchor baby decision so that a child born in the US will be guilty of a felony before she even takes her first breath. Do it! Keep pushing it. I especially like the protests at the day labor sites. Reasonably well off middle class Americans who have been given education and more opportunities than 90% of people in history protesting a group of undereducated poor men who are merely looking for work. Keep doing things like that. And try and get some TV crews there so John Q. Public can see it on the evening news. I was told that BB King once said that the bad people in Mississippi would have killed all the blacks had it not been for the many good white people. Perhaps slavery wouldn’t have ended when it did had it not been for the many good white people who gave their lives to help end it.

The same formula exists with immigrants. If you guys keep pushing it, you’re going to awaken a sleeping giant. Try mass deportation. Enforce laws against employers to the extent that the millions of illegals can’t get jobs and feed their families. Overturn the anchor baby decision so that a child born in the US will be guilty of a felony before she even takes her first breath. Do it! Keep pushing it.

I especially like the protests at the day labor sites. Reasonably well off middle class Americans who have been given education and more opportunities than 90% of people in history protesting a group of undereducated poor men who are merely looking for work. Keep doing things like that. And try and get some TV crews there so John Q. Public can see it on the evening news.

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by: contessa http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-324 Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:44:13 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=568#comment-324 Print the name and phone number of the coordinator who denied the permit so anyone who reads this can give her a call. Perhaps you may want to send a press release to your local paper regarding the arbitrary denial or at least a letter to the editor. Shameful. The illegals and their advocates get to march in a Patriot's Day parade, they probably don't even know what that word means. Disgusting. Print the name and phone number of the coordinator who denied the permit so anyone who reads this can give her a call. Perhaps you may want to send a press release to your local paper regarding the arbitrary denial or at least a letter to the editor. Shameful. The illegals and their advocates get to march in a Patriot’s Day parade, they probably don’t even know what that word means. Disgusting.

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