Comments on: Call The Fence Sitters http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863 Sat, 06 May 2006 23:49:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: Mike D. http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1306 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:46:50 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1306 "Arlen", Please do, and hopefully friends and acquaintances will send letters as well. Seems that people are slowly shifting from complaining on the Internet to actually contacting their representatives. With all the field offices they usually have, if you get a busy fax number at one, then try another. If we can hit them again early today (Friday) then maybe they will take their vacation without passing anything, get an earful from the folks back home, and think better of it. Pardon my slow reply, was travelling today. -- Mike D. “Arlen”,
Please do, and hopefully friends and acquaintances will send letters as well. Seems that people are slowly shifting from complaining on the Internet to actually contacting their representatives. With all the field offices they usually have, if you get a busy fax number at one, then try another. If we can hit them again early today (Friday) then maybe they will take their vacation without passing anything, get an earful from the folks back home, and think better of it. Pardon my slow reply, was travelling today.

– Mike D.

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by: Arlen Sphincter (pretend Republican name) http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1290 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:08:25 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1290 Excellent letter Mike. With your permission I'd like to email and fax portions of it to my congressmen. Excellent letter Mike. With your permission I’d like to email and fax portions of it to my congressmen.

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by: Brad http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1278 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:14:25 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1278 Great letter Mike Great letter Mike

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by: Roger http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1275 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:06:53 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1275 Specter's is riddled with tons of rewards for illigal alliens. there are probably 70 millions more waiting on the other side of US-Mexico border ready to cross at the moment of notice of this bill's passage. This wrong-headed bill of Specter is so blind to realize that 95% of illigal alliens who came here illigally did hold a job South of the border. To say that they come here looking for work would be an outright lie. Specter’s is riddled with tons of rewards for illigal alliens. there are probably 70 millions more waiting on the other side of US-Mexico border ready to cross at the moment of notice of this bill’s passage.

This wrong-headed bill of Specter is so blind to realize that 95% of illigal alliens who came here illigally did hold a job South of the border. To say that they come here looking for work would be an outright lie.

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by: Vincent Narodnik http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1264 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:39:19 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1264 I'll second that. Pretty impressive posting, Mike. Clear, concise and to the point. Sites like this are in a way, like taverns, where people wander in, say what they got to say, sit around and listen, even get into fights occasionally!;) Everybodies got their own angle but we all know who our enemy is. So, for my part, many thanks for your posting. It'd take me more than an hour to type out something like that! I’ll second that. Pretty impressive posting, Mike. Clear, concise and to the point. Sites like this are in a way, like taverns, where people wander in, say what they got to say, sit around and listen, even get into fights occasionally!;) Everybodies got their own angle but we all know who our enemy is. So, for my part, many thanks for your posting. It’d take me more than an hour to type out something like that!

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by: The Watchdog http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1259 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:30:46 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1259 That's a great letter Mike. Thanks for posting. That’s a great letter Mike. Thanks for posting.

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by: Mike D. http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1258 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:25:50 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1258 Dear Moderator: This is probably way too long for comments but may be a good example of a letter and a range of points on why illegal immigration is bad for the U.S., to help others write their letters. It is the basic letter I've been sending to senators and representatives. -- Mike D. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO re ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION Dear Sen. XXXX, NO on the Judiciary Committee Bill / Specter Amendment #3192 NO on illegal alien amnesty. YES on enforcement at the employer of immigration law YES on Kyl-Cornyn Amendment I have voted in every election for the past 32 years, and am mildly politically active. Rewarding people who knowingly broke the law with amnesty is wrong in many ways. As one example, my office manager is Veronica, a Filipino lady who came to the U.S. decades ago legally, and is now a U.S. citizen. Her relatives have applied to emigrate to the U.S. and have waited more than 20 years to come in. She is very unhappy about the many illegal entrants who jump the queue and now appear that they will be rewarded by the quisling government. Please remember that you were elected by U.S. citizens, such as Veronica, to represent U.S. citizens -- not to represent illegal aliens who are criminally here, or the interests of the Mexican government, or unscrupulous employers who exploit illegal alien slave labor. Please vote against legislation promoting yet another amnesty, and vote for legislation that prevents more illegal aliens from entering. Please appropriate money to enforce immigration laws at the workplace, so that employers will be penalized for exploiting illegal alien slaves over U.S. citizens and legal U.S. residents. Below are some points why illegal aliens, especially at the current massive level, are bad for the United States. To emphasize one, which is a fundamental point > Sincerely, Mike D. SEEMINGLY FORGOTTEN BASICS -- There is immigration, and there is ILLEGAL immigration. Do you understand the difference? Don't insult me by using the word "immigration" when the topic is *illegal* immigration. CITIZENSHIP -- The flood of illegal aliens is little different than the flood that permeated the Roman Empire as it was in decline, as Roman citizens cared more about the easy life than their citizenship, and the country was run by fools who didn't care for their people, like Caligula and Nero, puppets of the Praetorian Guard. It is unfortunately all too easy to make analogies to contemporary America. -- U.S. citizenship is valuable and not to be given away lightly. -- Giving welfare, cheap tuition, and other citizen benefits, devalues citizenship. -- We want someone who comes to the U.S. to enjoy the protection of our laws, and that means they should come here legally. -- What does it mean to an illegal that their first act in the U.S. is, by definition, to break the law? And that America doesn't care? -- It is not racist to defend America and its citizens. -- Soldiers didn't die for their country to give it away to Mexico. Show some courage. SLAVERY -- Illegal aliens are the slaves of the 21st century. -- Widespread use of illegal immigrants gives American citizens the mindset of slaveholders. This is bad. -- The willingness of authorities to look the other way says that breaking the law is OK. That is bad. -- Decent honorable work, that has been done by American citizens in the past, is being stigmatized because it is done by illegal alien slaves. The prior generation of Americans may have washed dishes to get through college, but the current generation doesn't want to do it because that is a job for illegals. Creating jobs that are seen as beneath Americans is fundamentally harmful to the civic virtues that are needed to sustain republican government. -- The natural progress in performing some jobs, e.g. further mechanization of agriculture, has stopped because of the cheap wages of illegal alien slave labor. Who is going to spend the money to apply our high tech to a 'smart' automatic strawberry picker when the grower can get an illegal alien to do it almost for free? The decline of slavery after the Civil War helped push agricultural technology. -- Japan gets these jobs done themselves without illegals. They have robots, we get illegals. -- I would happily pay more for produce, chicken, etc. if that were the cost of using legal employees. Economic studies have shown that the price increase would be small because the illegal labor portion is a small fraction of the cost. SOCIAL COSTS -- Illegal aliens draw down the wages and take the jobs of the working poor and middle class citizens. Illegals take "the jobs Americans won't do" because unscrupulous employers have now become used to paying slave wages. -- A 1979 GAO study of cleaning jobs in Los Angeles showed they used to have lower-middle class black union men doing them. As illegal aliens came in at much lower wages, these became jobs "no American would do". They get paid less than 25 years ago. That's not the direction we want our economy to go, but instead is towards a two-tiered master/servant economy, like in Saudi Arabia or the old South. We need to avoid that. -- The social costs include closed hospitals that have been bankrupted by unfunded mandates to service illegals, school systems that have been dragged down to the level of the ignorant poor, welfare costs, and crime. -- Recent columns (March 2006) by Paul Krugman (no right-winger), Robert Samuelson, Thomas Sowell, and others point out the economic problems of illegal immigration. AMNESTY -- Illegals spit in the face of people who wait their turn to legally enter the U.S., and the U.S. government rewards them for this with amnesty and no enforcement. This is unjust yet the government supports it. -- Continuing rounds of amnesty just attract more illegals. -- In 1986 the U.S. tried getting tough and opening up at same time, it was a fiasco. Fool me once, shame on me... The federal government has to demonstrate that it will enforce the laws. ENGLISH -- English is a fundamental part of U.S. citizenship, and must not be chipped away by multiculturalism. -- Why do I have to "Press 1 for English" when calling Los Angeles government offices, or some businesses? I live in the United States. What multicultural genius made this up? When Mexico has phone robots that say "Press 1 for Spanish," please let me know. MEXICO -- By taking in illegals, we siphon off agents of change from Mexico, and that helps to keep kleptocracy in power and avoid reform. Many illegal aliens are energetic blue collar workers whose skills are matched to Mexico's needs. Mexico is hurt because they're losing these people. -- What sort of friendly country prints guides on how to enter its neighbor illegally, and how to avoid attention while there? -- I used to think the Aztlan movement for Mexico to retake the southwestern U.S. via migration was a fantasy of 1960s college students, but now I am not so sure. ENFORCEMENT -- We must have the will and courage to enforce our own laws. -- The borders are enforcable, grandma and grandpa in lawn chairs with a telephone can do it, why can't the feds? -- U.S. laws need to be enforced against employers of illegals. -- We need interior enforcement as well as on the border. The federal government already has the information it needs, all it lacks is the will. This includes prosecution of banks and other services that knowingly cater to illegals. -- Don't accept silly ID like Matricula Consular cards. POLITICIANS, STOP IGNORING & REPRESSING US -- Politicians promote illegals to get more votes, both from donations from unscrupulous employers and from the multicultural left. -- People are tired of politicians claiming they are clamping down on illegals but in fact are encouraging them. -- Politicians need to decide that America is more important than whatever office they presently hold. END Dear Moderator:

This is probably way too long for comments but may be a good example of a letter and a range of points on why illegal immigration is bad for the U.S., to help others write their letters.

It is the basic letter I’ve been sending to senators and representatives.

– Mike D.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

re ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

Dear Sen. XXXX,

NO on the Judiciary Committee Bill / Specter Amendment #3192

NO on illegal alien amnesty.

YES on enforcement at the employer of immigration law

YES on Kyl-Cornyn Amendment

I have voted in every election for the past 32 years, and am mildly politically active.

Rewarding people who knowingly broke the law with amnesty is wrong in many ways. As one example, my office manager is Veronica, a Filipino lady who came to the U.S. decades ago legally, and is now a U.S. citizen. Her relatives have applied to emigrate to the U.S. and have waited more than 20 years to come in. She is very unhappy about the many illegal entrants who jump the queue and now appear that they will be rewarded by the quisling government.

Please remember that you were elected by U.S. citizens, such as Veronica, to represent U.S. citizens — not to represent illegal aliens who are criminally here, or the interests of the Mexican government, or unscrupulous employers who exploit illegal alien slave labor.

Please vote against legislation promoting yet another amnesty, and vote for legislation that prevents more illegal aliens from entering. Please appropriate money to enforce immigration laws at the workplace, so that employers will be penalized for exploiting illegal alien slaves over U.S. citizens and legal U.S. residents.

Below are some points why illegal aliens, especially at the current massive level, are bad for the United States.
To emphasize one, which is a fundamental point

>

Sincerely,

Mike D.

SEEMINGLY FORGOTTEN BASICS
– There is immigration, and there is ILLEGAL immigration. Do you understand the difference? Don’t insult me by using the word “immigration” when the topic is *illegal* immigration.

CITIZENSHIP
– The flood of illegal aliens is little different than the flood that permeated the Roman Empire as it was in decline, as Roman citizens cared more about the easy life than their citizenship, and the country was run by fools who didn’t care for their people, like Caligula and Nero, puppets of the Praetorian Guard. It is unfortunately all too easy to make analogies to contemporary America.
– U.S. citizenship is valuable and not to be given away lightly.
– Giving welfare, cheap tuition, and other citizen benefits, devalues citizenship.
– We want someone who comes to the U.S. to enjoy the protection of our laws, and that means they should come here legally.
– What does it mean to an illegal that their first act in the U.S. is, by definition, to break the law? And that America doesn’t care?
– It is not racist to defend America and its citizens.
– Soldiers didn’t die for their country to give it away to Mexico. Show some courage.

SLAVERY
– Illegal aliens are the slaves of the 21st century.
– Widespread use of illegal immigrants gives American citizens the mindset of slaveholders. This is bad.
– The willingness of authorities to look the other way says that breaking the law is OK. That is bad.
– Decent honorable work, that has been done by American citizens in the past, is being stigmatized because it is done by illegal alien slaves. The prior generation of Americans may have washed dishes to get through college, but the current generation doesn’t want to do it because that is a job for illegals.
Creating jobs that are seen as beneath Americans is fundamentally harmful to the civic virtues that are needed to sustain republican government.
– The natural progress in performing some jobs, e.g. further mechanization of agriculture, has stopped because of the cheap wages of illegal alien slave labor. Who is going to spend the money to apply our high tech to a ’smart’ automatic strawberry picker when the grower can get an illegal alien to do it almost for free? The decline of slavery after the Civil War helped push agricultural technology.
– Japan gets these jobs done themselves without illegals. They have robots, we get illegals.
– I would happily pay more for produce, chicken, etc. if that were the cost of using legal employees. Economic studies have shown that the price increase would be small because the illegal labor portion is a small fraction of the cost.

SOCIAL COSTS
– Illegal aliens draw down the wages and take the jobs of the working poor and middle class citizens. Illegals take “the jobs Americans won’t do” because unscrupulous employers have now become used to paying slave wages.
– A 1979 GAO study of cleaning jobs in Los Angeles showed they used to have lower-middle class black union men doing them. As illegal aliens came in at much lower wages, these became jobs “no American would do”. They get paid less than 25 years ago. That’s not the direction we want our economy to go, but instead is towards a two-tiered master/servant economy, like in Saudi Arabia or the old South. We need to avoid that.
– The social costs include closed hospitals that have been bankrupted by unfunded mandates to service illegals, school systems that have been dragged down to the level of the ignorant poor, welfare costs, and crime.
– Recent columns (March 2006) by Paul Krugman (no right-winger), Robert Samuelson, Thomas Sowell, and others point out the economic problems of illegal immigration.

AMNESTY
– Illegals spit in the face of people who wait their turn to legally enter the U.S., and the U.S. government rewards them for this with amnesty and no enforcement. This is unjust yet the government supports it.
– Continuing rounds of amnesty just attract more illegals.
– In 1986 the U.S. tried getting tough and opening up at same time, it was a fiasco. Fool me once, shame on me… The federal government has to demonstrate that it will enforce the laws.

ENGLISH
– English is a fundamental part of U.S. citizenship, and must not be chipped away by multiculturalism.
– Why do I have to “Press 1 for English” when calling Los Angeles government offices, or some businesses? I live in the United States. What multicultural genius made this up? When Mexico has phone robots that say “Press 1 for Spanish,” please let me know.

MEXICO
– By taking in illegals, we siphon off agents of change from Mexico, and that helps to keep kleptocracy in power and avoid reform. Many illegal aliens are energetic blue collar workers whose skills are matched to Mexico’s needs. Mexico is hurt because they’re losing these people.
– What sort of friendly country prints guides on how to enter its neighbor illegally, and how to avoid attention while there?
– I used to think the Aztlan movement for Mexico to retake the southwestern U.S. via migration was a fantasy of 1960s college students, but now I am not so sure.

ENFORCEMENT
– We must have the will and courage to enforce our own laws.
– The borders are enforcable, grandma and grandpa in lawn chairs with a telephone can do it, why can’t the feds?
– U.S. laws need to be enforced against employers of illegals.
– We need interior enforcement as well as on the border. The federal government already has the information it needs, all it lacks is the will. This includes prosecution of banks and other services that knowingly cater to illegals.
– Don’t accept silly ID like Matricula Consular cards.

POLITICIANS, STOP IGNORING & REPRESSING US
– Politicians promote illegals to get more votes, both from donations from unscrupulous employers and from the multicultural left.
– People are tired of politicians claiming they are clamping down on illegals but in fact are encouraging them.
– Politicians need to decide that America is more important than whatever office they presently hold.

END

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by: Mike http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1257 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:21:27 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1257 I've used www.senate.gov to get the fax numbers and emails of the senators -- just click on the state pulldown at upper right. Without any strong reason I think that faxes are better than emails, but was doing whatever works. Many senators' pages list multiple offices, so if you don't get a response with the DC number, then try one of their field offices, they are usually more available. I went by Feinstein's office on Monday Apr. 3 and recognized the door, painting, and people seen in the video on this site. I just handed them a letter explaining why illegal immigration is bad. But I enjoyed the video -- the Feinstein rep starts off a bit haughty but towards the end it seems he's uncomfortable with these good arguments that he doesn't know how to respond to -- and maybe 1% thinks the interrogator is correct (up from 0%). So persistent effort is worthwhile. I’ve used www.senate.gov to get the fax numbers and emails of the senators — just click on the state pulldown at upper right.
Without any strong reason I think that faxes are better than emails, but was doing whatever works. Many senators’ pages list multiple offices, so if you don’t get a response with the DC number, then try one of their field offices, they are usually more available.
I went by Feinstein’s office on Monday Apr. 3 and recognized the door, painting, and people seen in the video on this site. I just handed them a letter explaining why illegal immigration is bad. But I enjoyed the video — the Feinstein rep starts off a bit haughty but towards the end it seems he’s uncomfortable with these good arguments that he doesn’t know how to respond to — and maybe 1% thinks the interrogator is correct (up from 0%). So persistent effort is worthwhile.

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by: New American Populist http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1253 Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:57:01 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1253 Honestly, I think its time to start a new party, since our representatives on BOTH sides of the aisle will no longer represent us. Though I am still quite young, (not even done with college yet) I am and always have been an ardent America-Firster. I respect people like Lou Dobbs who have the courage to speak out against this sort of B.S., and I honestly believe it's time that we found a new party and get the current corrupt bastards out of office ASAP. I'm even considering starting a moderate party that represents the Middle Class and the interests of America, FIRST AND FOREMOST. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, EITHER THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTS US OR THEY ARE OUT. Honestly, I think its time to start a new party, since our representatives on BOTH sides of the aisle will no longer represent us. Though I am still quite young, (not even done with college yet) I am and always have been an ardent America-Firster. I respect people like Lou Dobbs who have the courage to speak out against this sort of B.S., and I honestly believe it’s time that we found a new party and get the current corrupt bastards out of office ASAP. I’m even considering starting a moderate party that represents the Middle Class and the interests of America, FIRST AND FOREMOST. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, EITHER THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTS US OR THEY ARE OUT.

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by: Vincent Narodnik http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1242 Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:21:07 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=863#comment-1242 I found this same thing with Lott. May he be turned into a pillar of salt! I ve called that snake twice today and both times, got shifted to , uh, whoever that guy is. Im calling them again and just telling directly to the girl that answers that Lott ought not to vote against America. I found this same thing with Lott. May he be turned into a pillar of salt! I ve called that snake twice today and both times, got shifted to , uh, whoever that guy is. Im calling them again and just telling directly to the girl that answers that Lott ought not to vote against America.

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