Comments on: Mr. President, I’m Heading To Mexico http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874 Sat, 06 May 2006 19:53:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: RickyD http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-2247 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:29:41 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-2247 Its very simple really.. like the letter says.. just give everyone the same rights they would give us in their country.. NONE.. and here is another frame of thought.. I am a 14th generation American.. I have traced my family back to 1742 in Virginia.. so I offer you this. You can have the same rights I have.. NO free medical care.. I can't get treated with out payment No free lunchs for my kids at school No free tuition at college, cash up front or your out and my final thougt is this.. if you want all of these free things and your willing to protest and such... why not just fix your own countrys problems? Its very simple really.. like the letter says.. just give everyone the same rights they would give us in their country.. NONE.. and here is another frame of thought.. I am a 14th generation American.. I have traced my family back to 1742 in Virginia.. so I offer you this. You can have the same rights I have..
NO free medical care.. I can’t get treated with out payment
No free lunchs for my kids at school
No free tuition at college, cash up front or your out

and my final thougt is this.. if you want all of these free things and your willing to protest and such… why not just fix your own countrys problems?

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by: Todd http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1797 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:35:52 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1797 While traveling most recently in Taiwan, I read an article in reference to Illegal Foreign Workers or what some US news agency’s refer to as undocumented workers otherwise know as Illegal Aliens. The Government of Taiwan is very concerned that they believe that there are currently 23,574 illegal foreign workers in their country and has recently increased the fines for hiring such individuals; Under the Employment Service Act, here are the new fines that took effect on April 12, 2006: First offense: The company is fined $5,000.00 - $25,000 USD Second offense: The hiring manager will be sentence to 3 years in jail and the company will be fined $40,000 USD, in addition the workers are deported to their country of origin within 48 hours. Perhaps our federal and local governments could learn from other countries on how to handle the Illegal Workers that enter our country every single day!!! While traveling most recently in Taiwan, I read an article in reference to Illegal Foreign Workers or what some US news agency’s refer to as undocumented workers otherwise know as Illegal Aliens.
The Government of Taiwan is very concerned that they believe that there are currently 23,574 illegal foreign workers in their country and has recently increased the fines for hiring such individuals;
Under the Employment Service Act,
here are the new fines that took effect on April 12, 2006:
First offense: The company is fined $5,000.00 - $25,000 USD
Second offense: The hiring manager will be sentence to 3 years in jail and the company will be fined $40,000 USD, in addition the workers are deported to their country of origin within 48 hours.

Perhaps our federal and local governments could learn from other countries on how to handle the Illegal Workers that enter our country every single day!!!

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by: hiro manukian http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1598 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:12:34 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1598 # The Watchdog Says: April 7th, 2006 at 12:16 am If you want to have peace, Hiro. You should respect me and my country. HM-*It's the "nut jobs" at the top that I don't respect- and I don't think they respect their constituency at all. ----------------------------- Vincent Narodnik Says: April 7th, 2006 at 5:06 am “Those who love �Humanity’ in the abstract, are the most likely to hate HUMANS [in the concrete i.e. individual] HM- *actually it's the abstract humanity that i "hate" whereas the individuals (mostly) all seem sort of "nice" up close.... --------------------------------------------------- # The Watchdog Says: April 7th, 2006 at 10:46 am From looking at his IP address, I think Hiro is writing to us from Australia. HM* yes Australia...a long time ally ----------------------------------------------------------- Vincent Narodnik Says: April 7th, 2006 at 10:55 am It is better to be a menefreghisto than a false humanitarian. HM* yes i agree with that...and i will give that "ideology" a tryout- see how it feels, tho' i am probably already there, i mean what sort of humanitarian wants to stick all the politicians and the overpaid crooks against a wall and accelerate them into "heaven-with-their-boots-on"? ---------------------------------------------- Michael Says: April 8th, 2006 at 11:53 am etc etc etc HM* watch out for this type- once they are "in" they become the worst sort of right winged fascist types... ------------------------------------------- My point originally was that the centre is not going to hold - just look at it now...our governments have got our military defences stretched to the point that if we actually needed them at home for 'defence' we would be in deep trouble....we are so in debt that consumption at all costs must be increased continually...and yet our indigenous populations are shrinking and worse aging....we are in an energy crisis...a water crisis (here)...a labour crisis, and ideological crisis, our freedoms are being removed every day ---and our "leaders" lie and lie and lie...the weather has gone bananas, we are in the biggest extinction event in history and we are due for a meteor any day now(statistically speaking).....and have you heard the music on the radio lately? Everything has gone to the dogs, as they say. But I have a solution...while all the "immigrants" are getting in I am going to quietly slip out- things are quite cheap in Mexico after all, and the women are very beautiful. # The Watchdog Says:
April 7th, 2006 at 12:16 am

If you want to have peace, Hiro. You should respect me and my country.

HM-*It’s the “nut jobs” at the top that I don’t respect- and I don’t think they respect their constituency at all.
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Vincent Narodnik Says:
April 7th, 2006 at 5:06 am
“Those who love �Humanity’ in the abstract, are the most likely to hate HUMANS [in the concrete i.e. individual]

HM- *actually it’s the abstract humanity that i “hate” whereas the individuals (mostly) all seem sort of “nice” up close….
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# The Watchdog Says:
April 7th, 2006 at 10:46 am

From looking at his IP address, I think Hiro is writing to us from Australia.

HM* yes Australia…a long time ally
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Vincent Narodnik Says:
April 7th, 2006 at 10:55 am
It is better to be a menefreghisto than a false humanitarian.

HM* yes i agree with that…and i will give that “ideology” a tryout- see how it feels, tho’ i am probably already there, i mean what sort of humanitarian wants to stick all the politicians and the overpaid crooks against a wall and accelerate them into “heaven-with-their-boots-on”?
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Michael Says:
April 8th, 2006 at 11:53 am
etc etc etc

HM* watch out for this type- once they are “in” they become the worst sort of right winged fascist types…
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My point originally was that the centre is not going to hold - just look at it now…our governments have got our military defences stretched to the point that if we actually needed them at home for ‘defence’ we would be in deep trouble….we are so in debt that consumption at all costs must be increased continually…and yet our indigenous populations are shrinking and worse aging….we are in an energy crisis…a water crisis (here)…a labour crisis, and ideological crisis, our freedoms are being removed every day —and our “leaders” lie and lie and lie…the weather has gone bananas, we are in the biggest extinction event in history and we are due for a meteor any day now(statistically speaking)…..and have you heard the music on the radio lately?

Everything has gone to the dogs, as they say. But I have a solution…while all the “immigrants” are getting in I am going to quietly slip out- things are quite cheap in Mexico after all, and the women are very beautiful.

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by: stupidwhiteguy http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1458 Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:08:32 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1458 So Michael, you assume that rednecks/white people (apparently you make no distinction between the two) are not willing to do hard labor? I've got several friends who bitch constantly because they are looking for work, and they are perfectly willing to pick fruit, tend fields, mow lawns, and trim hedges. The problem is they can't do it because there's some illegal alien who'll do it for a fraction they would want for their work. Even some other buddies of mine who work in a foundry can barely scrape by because illegal aliens will do the same work for far, far less. Oh, and if you accuse white people of being lazy, go check out the Minutemen (of course you'll just spout off about how racist they are). They don't seem as lazy as you'd have us believe white people are. If you assume that all white people are lazy and incapable, you are a racist. You are making assumptions about someone's character due to the color of their skin. Legal, regulated immigration made this country what it is. People can come here to live and work, but they've gotta do the right thing and get registered and matriculated. If they don't, they are NOT citizens, and should not be given the rights of citizens. So Michael, you assume that rednecks/white people (apparently you make no distinction between the two) are not willing to do hard labor? I’ve got several friends who bitch constantly because they are looking for work, and they are perfectly willing to pick fruit, tend fields, mow lawns, and trim hedges. The problem is they can’t do it because there’s some illegal alien who’ll do it for a fraction they would want for their work. Even some other buddies of mine who work in a foundry can barely scrape by because illegal aliens will do the same work for far, far less.

Oh, and if you accuse white people of being lazy, go check out the Minutemen (of course you’ll just spout off about how racist they are). They don’t seem as lazy as you’d have us believe white people are. If you assume that all white people are lazy and incapable, you are a racist. You are making assumptions about someone’s character due to the color of their skin.

Legal, regulated immigration made this country what it is. People can come here to live and work, but they’ve gotta do the right thing and get registered and matriculated. If they don’t, they are NOT citizens, and should not be given the rights of citizens.

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by: Jimmy http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1408 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:48:18 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1408 Michael, your comments are similar to Hiro's, but a little nastier. We would have more time and energy to do things, if we didn't have to support and pay for your raza buddies via extortionate taxation. Keep it up. More and more. We ARE waking up. Keep waving the raza flag. Keep pushing for a communist state called Aztlan. Keep those kids marching,( who don't deserve citizenship, and shouldn't be here in the 1st place.) We deserve our citizenship for many reasons, which you would not understand. We settled the barren land. Raza stayed in the more pleasant Mexican interior. Raza wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for us. We built, and your types just walk in and occupy. And by the way, we ARE making a difference now. Thanks for the flag waving marches. It helped a lot of people to wake up to the real agenda of the communist dominated raza movement. Michael, your comments are similar to Hiro’s, but a little nastier.
We would have more time and energy to do things, if we didn’t have to support and pay for your raza buddies via extortionate taxation.
Keep it up. More and more. We ARE waking up.
Keep waving the raza flag. Keep pushing for a communist state called Aztlan.
Keep those kids marching,( who don’t deserve citizenship, and shouldn’t be here in the 1st place.)
We deserve our citizenship for many reasons, which you would not understand. We settled the barren land. Raza stayed in the more pleasant Mexican interior.

Raza wouldn’t be here now if it wasn’t for us. We built, and your types just walk in and occupy.

And by the way, we ARE making a difference now.
Thanks for the flag waving marches. It helped a lot of people to wake up to the real agenda of the communist dominated raza movement.

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by: Joy http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1397 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:24:14 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1397 A copy of this request per reader should be sent to President Bush. Great idea! A copy of this request per reader should be sent to President Bush. Great idea!

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by: Michael http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1393 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:53:00 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1393 Actually what's embarrassing is how you lazy ass rednecks can't get off your ass to do the jobs hard working Mexicans have to do for you!! You claim to love this country, yet refuse to get off your asses and actually do something for the country you "love". Even now, when you say illegal immigrants are a "threat" you're not doing anything about it!!! I mean, do you really think saying bullshit about us in this website will make a difference?? Well newsflash: it's not!! But it's ok because you guys aren't a threat to us. We know that you are too damn lazy to get off from in from in front of the computer you guys bought off of welfare checks and do something else!! So good job!! Keep up the laziness!! Oh yeah, and let me ask you a question, "What exactly did you do to deserve citizenship in this country??" NOTHING? Yeah that's what I thought!! So enough with the "go back to your country" bullshit and get a life!!! Actually what’s embarrassing is how you lazy ass rednecks can’t get off your ass to do the jobs hard working Mexicans have to do for you!! You claim to love this country, yet refuse to get off your asses and actually do something for the country you “love”. Even now, when you say illegal immigrants are a “threat” you’re not doing anything about it!!! I mean, do you really think saying bullshit about us in this website will make a difference?? Well newsflash: it’s not!! But it’s ok because you guys aren’t a threat to us. We know that you are too damn lazy to get off from in from in front of the computer you guys bought off of welfare checks and do something else!! So good job!! Keep up the laziness!! Oh yeah, and let me ask you a question, “What exactly did you do to deserve citizenship in this country??” NOTHING? Yeah that’s what I thought!! So enough with the “go back to your country” bullshit and get a life!!!

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by: The Watchdog http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1347 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:04:02 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1347 Food shortages? Labor shortage? Nice try, James. I hope you'll hang around this site more often because you really need some help. These tired cliches you are using have been beaten to death over and over again. It's embarrassing really. Food shortages? Labor shortage? Nice try, James. I hope you’ll hang around this site more often because you really need some help. These tired cliches you are using have been beaten to death over and over again. It’s embarrassing really.

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by: James CJ http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1344 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:35:01 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1344 If you could wave a magic wand and instantly send all 10-20 million illegals back to their home country (with or without their children) are you prepared for the consequences? Are you ready for the food shortages? Your favorite restaurants closing or raising prices overnight? Your $10 lunch becoming $20? Your $1.50/lb chicken jumping to $4.00? We are all complicit in the influx of illegals. We have refused to pay citizens to do all of the crap jobs we take for granted. We don't encourage high school students to enter the trades, even though there can be good money in it. And, bottom line, we are soon going to be retiring around 3 people for every person born -- that will get worse, not better -- resulting in a continual labor shortage. Last time I checked, personal robots were still a ways off. We NEED laborers. And forget the classist/racist crap, if everyone on some form of stipend were fully employable we'd still have a labor shortage. THAT is the reality. Is illegal immigration an issue? Damn right. Are drugs an issue? Damn right. Same problem. Supply and demand at a price that the consumer is willing to spend. It's nothing more then economics. Follow the money, stupid. If you could wave a magic wand and instantly send all 10-20 million illegals back to their home country (with or without their children) are you prepared for the consequences? Are you ready for the food shortages? Your favorite restaurants closing or raising prices overnight? Your $10 lunch becoming $20? Your $1.50/lb chicken jumping to $4.00?

We are all complicit in the influx of illegals. We have refused to pay citizens to do all of the crap jobs we take for granted. We don’t encourage high school students to enter the trades, even though there can be good money in it. And, bottom line, we are soon going to be retiring around 3 people for every person born — that will get worse, not better — resulting in a continual labor shortage.

Last time I checked, personal robots were still a ways off. We NEED laborers. And forget the classist/racist crap, if everyone on some form of stipend were fully employable we’d still have a labor shortage.

THAT is the reality. Is illegal immigration an issue? Damn right. Are drugs an issue? Damn right. Same problem. Supply and demand at a price that the consumer is willing to spend.

It’s nothing more then economics. Follow the money, stupid.

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by: Vincent Narodnik http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1338 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 20:05:35 +0000 http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=874#comment-1338 If I may, here is another hard-hitting Lee Penn article which is more recent than the one given above. Both are well worth your attention. http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2704/ If I may, here is another hard-hitting Lee Penn article which is more recent than the one given above. Both are well worth your attention. http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2704/

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