Vista Considers Day-Laborer Ordinance

North Commie Times

VISTA —- Would-be employers who hire day laborers from street corners or parking lots in Vista may soon have to register with the city, display a registration certificate in their car window, and present short-term workers with written terms of employment —- steps that critics and supporters say could put a dent in the city’s most popular hiring spots.

Four months after hundreds of demonstrators on both sides of the illegal immigration debate faced off near a corner of Escondido Avenue where dozens of workers gather each morning, the City Council will consider an ordinance that would regulate such hiring within city limits. The council will meet at 5:30 p.m. Tuesday at City Hall.

City Attorney Darold Pieper said the proposed law is meant to benefit day laborers —- a viewpoint that immigration advocates called ridiculous.

“The goal of the statute is to protect workers and to deter hiring by people who are going to abuse, mistreat and otherwise cause problems with day laborers,” said Pieper. If approved, he said, Vista’s ordinance would be unique.

Claudia Smith, an Oceanside migrant rights attorney [she presents herself as an Attorney but she isn’t. She’s a liar.] and director of the California Rural Legal Aid Foundation’s Border Project, said the proposal was disingenuous.

Caudia Smith - Open Borders Hag

“It would be touching, all this concern about the day laborers, if that were the real motivation,” she said. “In effect, what the ordinance would do is shut down day-labor sites.”

She added: “A number of legal organizations are going to take a very close look to see if this passes muster.”

The ordinance would be enforced by sheriff’s deputies and code enforcement officers, Pieper said. Violations would be misdemeanors punishable by no more than six months imprisonment or $1,000 fine.

Early in the process, the city would conduct “active” enforcement of the registration requirements, but could eventually scale back to complaint-based enforcement, he said.

“We’ll just have to see how the process works,” Pieper said. “I think it’s too early to say how long active enforcement will be needed or how long it will continue.”

Upon registering, employers would receive information about state and federal laws, including the legalized status requirements. However, the city would not enforce those laws, Pieper said.

Some residents have called on the city to crack down on those day laborers who are in the United States illegally.

But unless an arrest is made the city has no authority to enforce immigration law, officials say. Current policies enable the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department to advise Immigrations and Customs Enforcement of persons who are arrested and suspected of being in the United States illegally, a city report states.

“We don’t support illegal immigration, but it’s not our issue,” Dudley said.

    My buddy Sonar shot these videos at the Vista day labor site last week.



16 Responses to “Vista Considers Day-Laborer Ordinance”

  1. johnny Says:

    Could you imagine if some kids wanted to ride their skateboards at that shopping center? The cops would be there in an instant! But if it were illegal aliens the cops would just make them move out to the street.
    I know where some day laborers hang out near my neighborhood in Phoenix, I think that I might just go and harass them!

  2. Juan Says:

    well. great job. Here it is: Have more people on the spot with Cameras. Easy thing.

    My question: what about the property owner of the shopping center? Have they issued any statement to the public ( not that they need to) or have they called for any enforcement of local or city ordinaces since this is disturbing the businesses who are renting at this location? What about the business owners?? Hell, if Im paying $ 3000 to $ 5000 per month on rent at a shopping center to operate my business, I would have my lawyer enforce the clauses in the lease agreement/contract so I can pursue my business in a peacful manner without interription or disturbance. In essence, I would put the heat on the owner to do somehting about this problem if they are loitering in front of my business, and then on the city for the lack of enforcement of this issue.

    The next big idea for a business is this: provide 24 webcam services to owners of shopping centers such as this one so they can monitor the activities all the time and reduce the amount of illiegal hiring at this spot. Put it on the web,. — stream the information to the local police and sherif department and the DA office so they can see who is hiring.

    The day labor site is a direct threat the middle class and small business owners of America. This is at the heart of this immigration issue. In this video, I see several busines opened and renting at this location. They pay rent, they pay sales taxes, they have a payroll, and pay payroll taxes and workers compensation and perhaps health insuracne if they have the profit to support the additional costs. They pay city and States taxes on their profits. Right in front of their business, they have illigeal aliens being hired for work, where the “employer” will not pay payrol taxes, will not pay city or state taxes, will not pay workers compensation and certainly will not pay for any health insurance for the “day labor

  3. Juan Says:

    (continued):

    The wage is set by whoever is willing to work for the pay. If its $30 for the day, then someone will take it and be done with it. On the other hand, every single business owner in that shopping center is facing the direct threat that can underming their business with the onslaught of illegal “day labor” activities. When 500 men are loitering at this location and driving down their wages, and no taxes are paid, or no legitamte documentation is used, — then why should a legit business put up with the regulations and documentaton that is required to run their business? Why? Why have payroll taxes and workers compensation fees added to this operating costs?? Why do it when all these employers are simplying avoid to whole issues?? I might as well run my business on a cash basis and pay my employees in cold hard cash and profit the rest, as much as these employers are doing. At what point will this lean the other way when business owners wake up and feel the threat to the existance of their business. Its already hapenning: when a competitor opens up a shop, hires people for cash, and sells their services and goods at a cheaper price. Then they will feel the pinch, and they wil be complicit in this dilemna because they let it happen right in front of their business and they will find themselves closing their business.

    Im pushing the line here, but I firmly believe this is THE major threat to the existance of american small business, blue collar labor, and the middle class. Our wages will be undermined by this continued practiced of illegal labor practices. Perhaps the discussion should evolved into”illegal labor practices” rather than “illegal immigration.” The issue of money (wages and taxes) then will take center stage in this discussion and perhaps the thousands of small busineses, legit blue collar labor and the middle class will have a greater influence in the politcial outcome of this discussion since it will involved their owne pocketbook.

  4. Contessa Says:

    Underage teen drinkers, skateboarders, prostitutes, etc. would be arrested, jailed and the cops would never, ever let a crowd of 100 be loitering around any shopping center, of course, unless you were an ILLEGAL ALIEN. The world has truly gone mad.

    Great video, dig the tunes, love to see some more! Good job!

  5. The Watchdog Says:

    JUAN - The property owner of the shopping center has given the “Vista Citizens Brigade” permission in writing to monitor the day loborers and report their employers. He can’t stand having these guys hanging all over the parking lot.

  6. Juan Says:

    Cant he get a court order or something? Since this is his private property? It is amazing.

  7. Joni Stone Says:

    I really feel for those guys. I know they are illegal but they most of them are just trying to work and make a living for their familys. Its a horrible situation. Its too bad private citizens have to go out to try and make a difference. Don’t we have laws. Is it ok to say we cannot arrest you for being in this country illegally? None of it makes sense to me but I think instead of going after these uneducated human beings that God teaches us to love all, we should go to the top where people in authority make decisions. To me if you arrest them it will discourage others from coming in droves but if we do nothing then this. We should have a system in Mexico run by Americans where these people can go and pay the money they already do to get here and Americans can try and be more honest than Mexico has been and put these people on a list to come here or Canada. Even if they have to wait till more spots open at least they will have a legal means of getting here.

  8. Sarah Says:

    America needs these videos plastered all over this country because many people in this country don’t know how it will be for them in the future. Thank you, thank you, thank you to those brave folks making these tapes. I couldn’t believe the KKK sign that they held up. This has absolutely nothing to do with race and they know it too. Second to them coming here illegally, pulling the race cards has been the worst thing that they have done.

  9. Sherri Says:

    I agree with Juan. If none of the businesses that hire illegals are going to be punished, then any and all businesses should be able to operate the same way without punishment. What is the point of having labor laws if they’re not going to be enforced? What’s the point of having immigration law if it’s not going to be enforced? The entire thing is a mess and ridiculous.

  10. Darlene Says:

    Another interesting and enjoyable mini-film, Dogwatch. The background music choices are outstanding and very appropriate. Thanks..

  11. Darlene Says:

    Oops….it’s late, I meant Watchdog. Sorry ’bout that.

  12. Darlene Says:

    Chlamydia Smith is an idiot. Nothing will ever make that broad happy except total amnesty.

  13. Eddie B. Says:

    This is what happened to Herndon VA. The Border Patrol came out and hepled Herndon to get their town back and it wasn’t easy BUT they voted out all the bums who tried to get tax payer funded day labor centers there. Ain’t a single bum left.

    And Claudia Smith can kiss my grits.

  14. NOITEMPLE15 Says:

    This lecture by Minister Eric Muhammad speaks powerfully to the issue of illegal immigration and reveals what it truly means to both Blacks and whites in this country.

    It has been removed by THE WHITE MAN due to, we assume, the number of people downloading it and complaints concerning it. We do not know how long it will take for them to delete it again. Get it while you can.

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  15. Eddie B. Says:

    Y’all need to chill out in Atlanta. Racism is racism no matter what color you are.

  16. Sonar Says:

    Killer! My vids are on the site! What an a honor. Watchdog Rocks!

    These day labor sites are just the tip of the iceberg. For each one of these cowards you see at the doughnut shop, there are 2 to 3 working in the service industry, at the mall, as security guards & any lower middle class gig you can name.

    For all of you who feel sorry for the invaders, why dont you flip the bill for their medical care, education & housing costs and costs of jailing the hardcore criminal types also? Take your head of the sand, the invasion effects ALL Americans of every race. See more vids here http://www.youtube.com/user/fooey12345

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