Over 40,000 In Military Eligible For Citizenship

Washington Times

Norfolk — Sgt. Vasil Mencev has served five years in the U.S. Army, including a year in Iraq riding fuel-supply trucks in convoys near Baghdad and watching friends get injured by roadside bombs.

Yesterday, the Macedonia native and 145 other immigrants in the U.S. military became Americans in a Flag Day ceremony aboard the aircraft carrier USS George Washington at Norfolk Naval Station.

Emilio T. Gonzalez, director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, administered an oath of allegiance to the military members, who raised their right hands and promised to do something they’ve already done: defend America.

‘With many of you already serving tours in combat, you’ve definitely earned your right to be here, standing tall as equal Americans,’ Mr. Gonzalez told the new citizens as he stood before a giant American flag.

Serving in the military can reduce by years the time it takes to become a citizen since President Bush signed an executive order in 2002 making immigrants on active duty immediately eligible for naturalization.

More than 24,000 service members have become citizens since the order was signed, and there are more than 40,000 immigrants now in the military who are eligible to apply for naturalization, Mr. Gonzalez said.

The people sworn in as new Americans yesterday hail from 50 countries.

29 Responses to “Over 40,000 In Military Eligible For Citizenship”

  1. TEXASAG97 Says:

    AMEN. I firmly beleive that any non-citizen willlin to serve in the U.S. Armed forced definitley deserves to become a U.S. Citizen. I served for 14 years and am the 4th generation to serve my country. Some of the best people I have ever met and served with were immigrants from Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc. If they are willing to put the United States ahead of their own wants and needs in order to gain “Legal Citizenship,” then more power to them and welcome.

  2. Sarah Says:

    So now all the illegals will flock to the military.

  3. Proud2bAmerican Says:

    This doesn’t make any sense! How can they have non citizens serving in the millitary?! If they are not Amerian citizens then they are citizens of another country and have an allegiance to that country! What if we were to get into a war wihn that country, who would they support?! God this is crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

  4. Eddie B. Says:

    Proud2bAmerican -

    These are Soldiers of Fortune. They are mercenary soldiers who are at least fighting with us. Just about every army in the world has used mercenaries and a lot of times they are really good fighters. If they do distingush themselves fighting for the USA then I don’t have a problem with citizenship. You know they can at least speak English.

    Personnaly, I think that if we are going to let in millions of illegals then it is time to bring back the draft. Some of them will think twice and go back home.

    I am also in favor of using MS-13 as live fire targets for the military. That would discourage those assh*les from being so visible and brazen. Pop a few of those thugs and they will disappear like the rats they are.

  5. nikki Says:

    I have nothing but respect for anyone who serves in the U.S. Military! I do worry about people who come here with intensions to one day turn on us, but for the most part these people are Americans to me.

  6. Pete Says:

    There have been many conflicts in the last 30 years, where American soldiers have found themselves fighting against former US servicemembers. Panama, and Somalia to name a couple. Mohamed Farrah Aidid’s son was a US Marine. Some foreigners come to learn our tactics, and to bring them to wars back home, many love America, and are honored to serve in our military. It’s fraudulant, and illegal to enlist anyone who doesn’t have at least legal resident status. Unfortunately, at least in the National Guard, we have recruiting teams who’s sole job is to reach the hispanic community, exponge records, and cut corners, to take advantage of the growing immigrant population (legal, or otherwise) who want citizenship, pay and all the other benefits provided through military service. In the end, the military is no better than the corporations; it’s solely about the numbers.

  7. Ed Says:

    I can tell you from personel experience that the U.S.has accepted forigners for at more than 50 years.when I was in navy biit camp there were two companies of filipinos.I’ve spent many years in the Phils they are good people& they make good americans.theres nothing wrong withthat & yes they are requiered to speak some english.

  8. Mike Says:

    The military has a wonderful manner of expected adherance, I think very few with intentions to turn… would manage to exist for long in our military infrastructure.

    Taking another countries citizens and enlisting them is rather riding the fence on supporting foriegn traitors ….

    Being a traitor in the military has a very high price….
    I believe that those who are coming here illegally do owe a pledge of military service to this country…. invading our country means demanding our protection threw our military service members…

    If they wish to demand citizenship & amnesty etc…. fine 28% of there current illegal population should face a draft to supply there portion of freedom and eqaul protection and rights under the law. Lets see the millitary would see a couple million increase in man POWER, and meet recruirting qouta for a long time to come. On the flip side we are in dept of man power to protect as the legal hordes grow.
    The freedom in this country has been paid for in blood, any who feel they have they right to come and go as they please and assume the benefits of or military and police security, should have to pay the same price we do, our SON’S and DAUGHTER’S!
    Other wise they have not even the right to humane protection, it’s enough that we don’t lock em up immediatly under suspicion of being terrorists Or criminals, thieves , murders, why should we trust them ,.. or allow them our paid for privladges… those who served in armed forces faithfully have earned honor amongst us, but should be aware that America has learned the length to which some one will go to become invisable enough to pull off a Terror attack.

    Bush could just stop taking in mercinaries , specially after 911.
    Better safe than sorry, or have we not allready learned that leason, or are we going to waite till an invader starts shooting basic trainee’s in our boot camps YELLING JIHAD, and die infidels.
    This is a heavy and undebated subject… who see’s this in a different manner?

  9. Sharon Says:

    The military should be comparable to a business. If businesses are forbidden of hiring them, then so should the military. School and government offices are forbidden from hiring anyone who is not a US citizen. Why is the military different? Back during the cold war, our military would not have dared to let in someone from the Soviet Union without fully checking them out. Yet, we allow Latinos in the military knowing that many Latin countries have a strong Communist movement. I know that many people can say that they know of a great person here and there that is in the military who’s citizenship is not from the US; but that doesn’t mean that it is right. When push comes to shove on the front lines, that soldier has an allegiance to another country. With the way things are going in this country, that may be tested soon.

  10. TEXASAG97 Says:

    I tend to agree with Sharon, even though I have not had any bad experiences with Legal Immigrants in the U.S. Army. However, as stated by several individuals above, I personaly believe that you should not be able to hold public office or serve in the military unless you are a “Natural Born Citizen,” from parents that are either legalized immigrants or have a lineage of ancestory as U.S. Citizens. After reading posts from above I agree with several of the comments about taking in immigrants into the military. Maybe that is also an issue that should be addressed with the Immigration Legislation. But, with the military as with most of American society, you are tought that any personal opinion about how things are run and policies are to be kept to yourself, that you need to just accept them and you are trained to overlook these types of issues. With the events that have happened in the last 10 years the policy of allowing immigrants into the military should probably be revised and changed.

  11. nikki Says:

    Very good points Mike! We let people from Cuba become citizens, they don’t have to work for it. Instead they turned Florida in to Cuba jr. They don’t bother to learn our culture, they don’t bother to learn our language. My moms last landlord was from Bosinia, they were brought here and given citizenship because they were misplaced refugees from the war. She was given a free education,money to live on, a nice job, & a nice car. One of the apartments she put a few of her relatives in rent free. And you know what- she treated my mom like she was cheap white trash! We give everything to these people who are coming into our country, so they really don’t understand what being poor in America is like, and they never have to work their way up, it’s all given to them. So if someone wants to come here and join our military, God bless them.

  12. Charles in Georgia Says:

    See Bush had this planned all along Why is this happening right this very min. There is definitely an urgency to get these folks legalised

  13. Charles in Georgia Says:

    What I mean by plan is it was another way to make the illegal numbers go up. Bush has had a master plan. They should be pissed for they’ve been used as pol. pawns. OUT Of the 2500 dead soldiers from Iraq, how many were illegal aliens.

  14. Harrison Bergeron Says:

    I support rewarding legal residents (aka. green card holders) with citizenship for their honorable service in the United States armed forces.

  15. Darlene Says:

    Check out his site and it may change your mind about allowing illegals in our armed forces:

    http//www.michellemalkin.com/archives/005130.htm

    Photos of American gang graffiti on our tanks and other equipment and one soldier’s opinion of the problems he sees with illegal and American gang members serving our country.

    After viewing the photos and story, you can click, (in red) at the top of Michelle’s article, on the full story at the Chicago Sun-Times.

  16. Darlene Says:

    Oops: http://www.michellemalkin.com/archives/005130.htm Hope that works!

  17. Proud2bAmerican Says:

    Sharon and TEXASAG97,

    Thank you for your very valid contributions! I was begining to think that I was the only one who saw a tremendous conflict of interest in allowing foreigners to join the millitary.

    Do you remember that on muslim guy who joined the army and then threw a grenade in a tent killing a leiutenant. I mean there have already been many articles on this website that talk about how the latinos working for the border patrol have let their buddies bring in drugs and aliens. What do you think they’ll do in the army if we put them on the border? They’ll turn their guns on us!

    Please wake up my friends! These people are not to be trusted! A revolution is coming and we better be sure that every soldier we arm is on our side!

  18. Darlene Says:

    Also, at the bottom of Michelle’s article, click on Military.com to see a blog discussion of actual soldiers opinions on gangs in the military.

  19. Sherri Says:

    I’m not really sure how I feel about this. If these people show loyalty to America, I say let them become citizens. If they do not show loyalty and have a bad attitude, court martial them and send them back to their country of origin.

  20. johnny Says:

    I respect that Mexicans would like to join our miltary and fight for our freedoms, however I do not believe that instant citizenship should be granted to them. I feel that they should be allowed to jump to the front of the line for a chance at citizenship. Over the years we have had millions of alied individuals on our side fighting the bloodiest of wars. There was never any history of 40,000 alied soldiers granted automatic citizenship. I give great respect to those mexican soldiers who joined our military and are fighting on our side, but I do not feel that it should be used as a means to gain instant citizenship, otherwise the military would become reliant upon illegal aliens and not their fellow country men.

  21. nikki Says:

    Darlene- good link. You’ve changed my mind.

  22. madashell Says:

    I served in the U.S armed forces for 6 years, I don’t believe that serving ing the armed forces should grant you the right to become a citizen. If you are from another country you can’t serve in the military in Mexico, even if you were there legally, and became a Citizen, you can’t work in the civil service as even a postman. forget about becoming a politician. Mexico demand that we treat their illegal immigrants with full rights as citizen, but deny even legal citizen in their country equal rights. Citizenship first, Military second, not the other way around. That is a Security issue in an of it self.

  23. madashell Says:

    MSWA: Muslim soldiers with attitude
    Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an “attitude problem.”
    Mar 26, 2003
    by Michelle Malkin ( bio | archive | contact )

    Email to a friend Print this page Text size: A A Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an “attitude problem.”

    According to his superiors and acquaintances, Akbar’s attitude was bitterly anti-American and staunchly pro-Muslim. So how did this devout follower of the so-called Religion of Peace work out his attitudinal problems last weekend?

    By lobbing hand grenades and aiming his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division’s 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait.

    Akbar is the lone suspect being detained in the despicable attack, which left more than a dozen wounded and one dead. Surviving soldiers say Akbar, found cowering in a bunker with shrapnel injuries, was overheard ranting after the assault: “You guys are coming into our countries, and you’re going to rape our women and kill our children.”

    “Our”? At least there’s no doubt about where this Religion of Peace practitioner’s true loyalties lie.

    Naturally, apologists for Islam-gone-awry are hard at work dismissing this traitorous act of murder as an “isolated, individual act and not an expression of faith.” But such sentiments are willfully blind and recklessly p.c.

    Sgt. Akbar is not the only MSWA — Muslim soldier with attitude — suspected of infiltrating our military, endangering our troops and undermining national security:

    – Ali A. Mohamed. Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army, immigrated to the U.S. in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. This despite being on a State Department terrorist watch list before securing his visa. An avowed Islamist, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg, N.C., and obtained classified military documents. He was granted U.S. citizenship over the objections of the CIA.

    A former classmate, Jason T. Fogg, recalled that Mohamed was openly critical of the American military. “To be in the U.S. military and have so much hate toward the U.S. was odd. He never referred to America as his country.”

    Soon after he was honorably discharged from the Army in 1989, Mohamed hooked up with Osama bin Laden as an escort, trainer, bagman and messenger. Mohamed used his U.S. passport to conduct surveillance at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi; he later pled guilty to conspiring with bin Laden to “attack any Western target in the Middle East” and admitted his role in the 1998 African embassy bombings that killed more than 200 people, including a dozen Americans.

    Ain’t multiculturalism grand?

    – Semi Osman. An ethnic Lebanese born in Sierra Leone and a Seattle-based Muslim cleric, Osman served in a naval reserve fueling unit based in Tacoma, Wash. He had access to fuel trucks similar to the type used by al Qaeda in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded nearly 400 other Americans.

    Osman was arrested last May as part of a federal investigation into the establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon. Osman recently pleaded guilty to a weapons violation, and the feds dropped immigration charges against him in exchange for his testimony.

    Ain’t open borders grand?

    – John Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army’s 84th Engineering Company. In an eerie parallel to the Akbar case, Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad’s superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was “trouble from day one.”

    Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.

    Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.

    Ain’t tolerance grand?

    – Jeffrey Leon Battle. A former Army reservist, Battle was indicted in October 2002 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and “enlisting in the Reserves to receive military training to use against America.” According to the Justice Department, he planned to wage war against American soldiers in Afghanistan.

    Ain’t diversity grand?

    “It’s bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys,” Spc. Autumn Simmer told the Los Angeles Times this week after the assault on the 101st Airborne. The Islamist infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, and tolerance of the murderous “attitude” of Jihad.

    Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist and maintains her weblog at michellemalkin.com. She has also authored books such as Unhinged and In Defense of Internment.

  24. Proud2bAmerican Says:

    Madashell, thank you!

    That’s the story I was trying to remember and as I said before to allow foreiners into the millitary is to undermine ourselves from within.

  25. Sherri Says:

    A very interesting and frightening post, Madashell. Our government shows it’s incompetence and indifference when they allow people on a terror watch list to join our armed forces. After reading your post, I’ve made up my mind: You should be a U.S. citizen in order to join, and no instant citizenship for someone just because they join the armed forces. This is ridiculous!

  26. Darlene Says:

    Madashell,

    This is far worse than we ever expected….wow….thanks for the very informative post.

  27. Sharon Says:

    Thanks Proud2beAmerican - I do remember that muslim grenade incident vaguely. I didn’t follow the news then as much as I do now.
    Darlene- that Michele Malkin site with the gang graffiti on tanks in Iraq is unreal. They asked for it when Bush encouraged non-US citizens to join. Plaster that link everywhere you can.

  28. David M. Says:

    Just because an illegal served in the US military dosen’t mean he/she has respect for this country. Illegals are useless and need to take their sorry third world as** back home. The last thing we need is our military letting these people in so they train other people as part of their reconquista movement.

    We need another American Revolution and after we set Washington straight, head south and put Mexico in it’s place.

  29. madashell Says:

    David M; good idea, but in order to get to Mexico, we would probably have to get China out of the way first since we know now that China, and possibly the Russians are in Mexico.
    our Proud but Stupid Government have put us in a very difficult situation. We better arm ourselves, get prepaired, if we get nuked from the ground, meaning if devices were brought through the border; who could the US blaim? will the U.S Government say it came from Russia, Iran, China, we are making so many enemies, there are 70,000 U.S troops in Germany along, We need troops on the borders until the wall in constructed. America can protect the borders with Border patrol, and Troops, as well as radiation, and other bomb material sencors, what are they waiting for ? it seem that this government, is even inviting calamity to strike us.

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