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250 Responses to “The Dog House - March”
  1. jo says:


    this name thing is the most ridiculeous logic that i have heard to date. the man did not chose his name. he is a jr., so his daddy did not chose his own name nor that of his son. in my relatively long life i have run into people who were named by their parents, names like princess, prescious, jesus, doctor etc. they were none of these. if the people spouting the nonsense can say that they would allow someone NAMED doctor by his/her parents operate on them or their family members then their belief system would hold up in my mind, but their sanity would be most questionable. i find this whole premise about his name vs his religious beliefs and who he REALLY is a form of bigotry that is going to lead us to a very very ugly place. what we are really witnessing is a transferrece of this “fear/hate of muslims on to an american black man, which will progress into out and out race war ( bigots killing “muslims/aka black american with a righteous indignation that they are patriots) that can’t be stopped . we will be killing one another off for the masters just like they planned. this is the logic of the weak minded, the impotent ones. if people survive further along in history, they will question how we could have possibilly been soooo stupid. i am asking that question in the here and now.
    we really need to leave out the whole religion thing any way, because we know that religiousness is just a tool that politicans flount while their actions prove that in fact they worship money, power and the devil. how comtable people get ,seeing the president and his family going to church services on sunday while they are nailing us to the board 7 days a week. what will the next “president” do when she/he no longer has billy graham to “counsel and console ” them. every president for the last 3 decades has asked billy graham if they will be going to heaven and billy has assured every last one of them that they would be. so much for religion and the presidents.

    just for the hell of it. for those who believe this dumb shit….. is obama a undercover muslim working for whom? the powers that be that are destroying and killing hundreds of thousands muslim( “obama’s people”) have made another mistake and are unaware of it? the same people who have on their drawing board the genocide of the entire muslim world and global enslavement for the survivors have just made another mistake? this is just a replay by retards on the WMD., only now it is obama that is the WMD because on the downlow he is a enemy of the people, the proof is in his name. now that is really deep …. NOT just dumbshit by retards.

    he is just a traitor of the people, as is whorehay,chaney, bilary, mccanine and the cast of thousands. ” by his/her name shall they be known” and that name is TRAITOR!

  2. jo says:

    just a thought…………………hum

    the confusion is such that it self perpetuates. it is the loud mouth mexicans that shouts we are going to take over USA. the rest of the other illegals quitely go about their business. the cubans only want florida.LOL . the manipulated term hispanic was formed as a umbrella to bring all spanish speakers together as a force for CHANGE, oops…there’s that term again aka take over of this country… while most american citizens can’t tell one group from the other, they include them all together. those that are not mexican take offense at being lump in with the loud mouth mexicans and speak up about the unfairness of the whole thing. i guess if they don’t want to be included in that group, they need to figger out a way to opt out and say look we don’t want to be included under that” hispanic umbrella”. The loud month americans really do need to be a little more discriminate about lumping ALL hispanics and other “third world” people together. as often happens, people make harsh statements and then as a after though, say, well i’m only talking about illegals. tsk…tsk…tsk.., it is all so screwed up. the masters did a really good job with their recipe for disaster that one does not know if it it is rice pudding or bread pudding ..

    the saddest thing of all is that on the most basic of levels, there is really no difference between any of us. we have all been placed on the slide to hell and we will fight all the way. sadly. the fight will be among ourselves because we are so caught up in the masters pudding.

    would it not be wonderful if we the people, citizens, legals and illegals, from canada thru mexico could get together and kick all the traitors , from all 3 countries ,out of office, secure our borders and get our sh*t together. each country is rich in many things and could turn out to be meaningful allies. kicking the traitors out would have nothing but a positive impact on all three countries as the traitors contribute nothing , but take everything. well one can dream anyway. being right, being better is just gonna leave us dead and/or enslaved. Slaves own nothing, not even themselves as do dead people own nothing, not even that pitiful little piece earth that they reside in but for a moment.

    this is more than a thought, more than a dream….. it is the only way we can survive, but can all the “aware” clear their minds of “self-righteous indignation” and realize that whatever the hell they have done thus far is not working and a new plan is needed. trying to beat the masters at the game they created is bound to keep us in the checkmate position. i don’t believe, but i want to believe that we can find a way.

  3. Sandman says:

    Crazy Midget goes ballistic in a Mexican restaurant…

  4. litew8 says:


  5. jo says:

    shame on the idiots that harassed that midget woman. i personally found it offensive, as she was obviously mentally unstable…………what the hell was the excuse for those morons who harassed her.

  6. jo says:


    i’ll look for your comment later. plz repost

  7. steaknife says:

    I don’t think Obama is a Muslim. At least not in person. But, I do believe that he has communistic tendencies. He is for transforming America. He is a liberal in the third degree. I say this as a resident of Illinois. He votes for every liberal bill that comes his way. I also question why he thinks that he has the experience to be president when he never has done anything beneficial for this country. He has no record as a leader. I question that in these tough times how can we gamble on someone with no experiece in leadership. He cites change but what cange does he refer to? And,most paramount, he is a CFR member!

  8. jo says:

    what will it take for people to realize that the presidency is no longer a leadership position. it is merely a figurehead spot. he/she who pledges to carry out the will of the masters. well what about whorehay? he did not listen to anyone and look what chaos he caused. wrong! whorehay did exactly what he was placed in the presidency to do. the new president/presidents have already been chosen and what we are witnessing is the “political correctness” of the election thing. a bad preformance at that.

    the last president that took control and refused to be a puppet was teddy roosevelt. imo, jfk’s refusal to be a puppet is what brought him a bullet.

    so you see, this not about leadership but about who will be serve the best interests of the masters.

  9. Jimmy says:

    Speaking of jfk:

    Also on a lighter note:

    Like I’ve said before: Things changed in November of 1963.

    And not for the better.


  10. Jimmy says:

    Also on a lighter note should have been:

    &%#@ computer……….

  11. litew8 says:

    LOL, blocked it again. Lets try a new approach. See if we can tell what words are being filtered, or if it is something else.
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    Jo, I think perhaps you are missing the point again. The guy doesn’t seem to want to tell the truth about his upbringing. Instead of answering the question(s) truthfully, they immediately turn around and are calling the people racist, bigots, fear mongers, etc… Similar to what you are doing. I’m not suggesting that you have the same intentions, but perhaps a little near sighted and that they are not being truthful. Romney was balsted continuously throughout his campain about his religion. Now that Obla Bla is getting the same line of questioning, he and his wife are quick to drop the race card in and sidestep the issue.

    There is something not trusting in the manner in which they choose to discuss the issue or questioning. It just seems evident they are trying to conceal something. Why? I don’t know.

  12. litew8 says:

    “Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, “All praise and glory to God!” but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have “hijacked” - hijacked - Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban - ban - on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.”

    From:The Real Obama
    By Ken Blackwell
    Thursday, February 14, 2008

  13. litew8 says:

    Hmmm… it didn’t like this segment. Let me revise it a little.
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    Very last page, approx. last paragraph:

    “A Candidate, His Minister and His Search for His Faith”

    Barack Obama’s minister, Mr. Jeremiah Wright preaches racism, bigotry and has a great animosity towards the ‘white’ race and has strong ties with The Nation of Islam and has made the comment on national television many times that, “The United States deserved 9/11″.

    Jo, I would think people are also asking themselves, does he also think similarly to the above, since he has close ties. Would he favor the Islamic world if he were to be the leader of the U.S.? Would he flood our country with millions and millions more immigrants on top of the ones already here. Would he elliminate the borders?

  14. litew8 says:

    This is what I edited out (mispelled to trick the filter though):
    Would he take our country to a cosialist komunist state? Would he make us (people in favor of laws) the criminals? His politics are rooted in Mar-x and Cosializm, he is the worst kind of freak.
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    … and to conclude:

    Part of the NAU is trade with the middle East. Allowing (much more) their products to be shipped to Mexico and then up into the United States. Could this also be the reason why they wanted to hand over control to the Dubi ports a while back? Part of their bigger agenda? Is there reason to be concerned about this guys intentions, and his cosialist behavior? YOU BET.

  15. litew8 says:

    That worked. ;)

  16. jo says:


    i personally think obama is full of shit, so are all the others. i have no intention of participating in the fake election, however, all these things that people are attributing to him smacks of pure crap. what he said or didn’t say, what he REALLY meant, who his parents were, what they did or didn’t do, who he associates with or he doesn’t, blah, blah, blah.

    “He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction.”

    this paragraph alone shows the ignorance of this whole thing.i am going to ignore the misinformation in it for a moment, but since when does the muslim religion endorse any of that. abortion, homosexuals, marriage of same…..geezz.

    as far as margaret sanger is concerned, she was never, at any time in history an advocate of racial cleansing. i would suggest that you find out who she really was and what she stood for, then you will be able to see that one slanted lie leads to another.

    i don’t know if you are from the far religious right and i am not asking you your business, however, just that one paragraph shouts out to me that this is part of a smear campaign by them. it has their hand prints all over it. i smell that pig, HAGEE!

    i have never personally heard or read anything that shows obama is advocating any kind of racism unless one considers his outrageous stand on immigration, but then that would make all of the candidates racists.
    as far as seeking someone that you can trust, i don’t where you are gonna find that , certainly not in this group. i have no illusions about “the job” any of them are prepared to do. they are all really interchangable and the masters have chosen who the winner will be, who will do the best job FOR THEM.

    i am sure we can find something more worthy to debate so i am gonna just sign off on this one. there is just to much real stuff to talk about so lets leave this fake shit for someone else.

  17. jo says:


    how do you hi-lite the quotes?(gray box) i am using xp and most of the time firefox. also where can i find bold, italic etc.

    sometimes i can’t do the simple things, but some of the more complicated i can figger out. what’s up with that ?LOL

  18. K2 says:

    It is odd about certain words and phrases. Despite the phases the filter goes through due to isp hitches, it does seem to kick in when particular words are used, much more than what would be expected randomly. Same ones too that litew8 pointed out. Have taken into consideration the tendency too use them fairly often, but it still seems to be a higher %age than chance. Probobly just being over-suspicious.

  19. Eddie B. says:

    So when O=blah-blah gets elected how long do you think it will take before the “Islamic-Americans” demand Sharia law?

    How long before the Mexicans demand no law? How long before martial law?

    I feel like I am trapped in a really bad video game.

  20. melody says:

    It don’t matter if it is true or not, if people think Obama is going to let babies be aborted as they are being born(partial birth termination) I don’t see anyway he can win unless the others are for it too. I have lived around some very religious people. Faith is very important to some people. Some people may not practice a religion, but they love babies. Some people are going to be very, very upset when the subject of abortion comes up. If abortion becomes a major issue, prepare for having McCain as president because nobody who cares about babies is voting for partial birth abortions.

  21. litew8 says:

    Fair engough jo. I’m from neither the far right nor far left. I’m not an aitheist either. I agree with you that the people that actually publish that stuff do indeed have an smear agenda. But the best thing for O-blabla to do would be to address them with truth. There seems to be enough information out there to indicate that he is lying. That is what concerns me most. I didn’t suggest that it would be anything based on racism. That is something that THEY are bringing into the matter, suggesting that people asking simple questiongs (as they did with Romney) about his upbringing is racisist in nature, they immediately turn around and accuse the voters of being bigoted, racist, ect… That is the sign of the far left. That is a sign that there is something they aren’t willing to share or discuss. That is a sign that they are uncomfortable. THE GUY IS RUNNING for presidentcy of the U.S. - WE HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

    I don’t know anything about Margaret, it is something that came with the paragraph that I found. As for the other things mentioned, I fear that if there were to be a presidential candidate with a radically skewed agenda in favor of enabling the other side, they’d use any means possible - and pander to any group that they would deem useful in their backdoor agenda. If you have a slight understanding of what the kom-unist agendas are, you’d see that they would use certain things as enablers to achieve other objectives more quickly.

  22. litew8 says:

    RE: Format Your Text / Paragraphs- I’ll try to give a little tutorial here.
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    I cannot use the actual symbols to show you what they are because they will actually render accordingly. So I will substitue them with other symbols so you can see the format.

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    In this tutorial, where ever you see ( ) symbols, note they should actually be greater than and less than symbols instead. Above the comma and period on your keyboard. This is what we use to create tags. Tags surround the text, or paragraph you are looking to format.

    For example:

    If you want BOLD text,
    enclose your test with the bold tags - (b)BOLD(/b)

    The tag at the begining of the word BOLD above indicates START bolding. Then at the end of the word, or paragraph, you have to indicade STOP bolding by using the forward slash inside (/b).

    Italic works the same way.
    Encase your word, or paragraph with (i)these tags(/i).

    To make your paragraph dark grey or highlighting,

    you use the (blockquote)tags(/blockquote).

  23. litew8 says:

    Remember to substitute the ( ) with Greater than and Less than symbols.

  24. seven_staarten says:


    and … albeit with some quirks, margaret sanger was a marvelous American ~ the uber-feminist. reproductive freedom=freedom from reproducing.


    one mo time:

  25. seven_staarten says:

    on a lighter note,

    happy tale from the neighboorhood:

  26. melody says:


    Thanks, I was also wondering how you did that too.

  27. melody says:

    How do you get the yellow smile faces on here?

  28. jo says:


    thanks for that link to the article about sanger. although it was very short it summed up what she was about and why. thanks to her work, she saved many (particularly poor) women’s lives.

  29. seven_staarten says:

    colon + right parenthesis

    fun fun fun

  30. seven_staarten says:



  31. jo says:


    Thanks for the lesson

  32. jo says:


    back at ya LOL


  33. jo says:



  34. melody says:

    I give up. I can’t figure out how to put yellow faces on here. Ya, webmonkey looks like a fun website, but I feel like a old dinosour.

  35. litew8 says:

    You’re all welcome. ;)
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    Here’s an overview:
    WD’s website is HTML based (via WordPress).
    That means it understands HTML tags.
    Like the ones that I showed you.
    Not all HTML tags will work though.

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    Replace ( ) symbols with Greater Than and Less Than symbols.

    Italic = (i)Italic(/i)
    Bold = (b)Bold(/b)

    Shaded = (blockquote)Shaded(/blockquote)

    Customize Your Link = (a href=””)Cutomize Your Link(/a)

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    I’ll try a couple of more, but they may not render correctly here.

    Underline = (u)Underline(/u)
    Strikethrough = (strike)Strikethrough(/strike)

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    Some websites (particularly forums) will not accept the above HTML tags. Insead, they require that you use Vb Code. It differs slightly from the above. Instead of using the Greater Than and Less Than sybmols to create your tags, you use [ ] symbols. For the most part, other than the symbols, you use the same text to comprise the inner part of the tags.

    Also, since this is a WordPress hosted website, it will only allow certain smilies. That, and it is WD’s preference to allow them as well. He could disallow them if he chooses. Here is a link for WordPress specific smilies = WordPress Smilies Chart. Scoll down to see the table.

  36. litew8 says:

    melody, you can bookmark the link I provided above (WordPress Smilies Chart) - and copy from there and paste here - the associated text to create your smilies. Just remember that you need (I believe) to have at least one space between your smiley and other text.

    Correct = Smile :)
    Incorrect = Smile:)

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    There’s a chance I’m wrong.

  37. litew8 says:

    ^ ^ I was correct. You need to have at least one space between any text, and your smiley text.

  38. melody says:

  39. litew8 says:

    I hate not having an editing feature. I wanted to add - you have to have at least one space between your smiley and any other text - ON BOTH SIDES of the smiley.

    Correct = Smile :) Smile
    Incorrect = Smile:)Smile

  40. melody says:

    Thanks, I was wondering where those yellow faces were coming from.

    The easy stuff flys over my head. That was it. All I had to do was type in a colon + a right parenthesis? :)

  41. jo says:


    by golly, i think i got it (at least right now ,anyway).LOL

    thanks alot, i feel like i got a little gift today. i believe it is not ettiquette to use the faces too much so i’ll refrain this time. please let me know if that is correct.

  42. jo says:


    ditto to you!

  43. melody says:

    Now I make some more icons. ;-)

    ah, now I know the secret! More fun for me!

  44. litew8 says:

    You’re welcome! Don’t forget the other special effects Melody!

    Makes conversation more interesting/expressive (not to be overdone).

  45. BEADALONG says:

    #25. That’s a good one, seven-staarten.

  46. The Watchdog says:

  47. Johnny says:


    Nice video! I was really impressed by the assault weapons!

  48. jo says:

    has anyone noticed as our economy is swimming in the toilet no one mentions the D word. depression. the question back in the day used to be “are we heading towards a depression or a recession?” replacement terms are “soft landing or recession” heard a economist on tv the other day answering this new question.
    he said we are heading for a soft landing, although the people feel and believe it is a recession. according to them, “we the people” are soooo stupid.

    george orwell would be amazed how they are plagarizing his work so closely.

    earlier this year i was ???? to hear the D word (democracy) adjusted in referrence to what our country is. we are and have always been according to the new definision an indirect democracy. i guess of, for and by the people. was just a collective figment of our imagination.i guess the straight democracy word is reserved for whorehay to use as a bat, as he goes around the world trying to steal everything from everyone. like the constitution, the border, sovernity and free speach it is all just meaningless words, according to him and he should know because he rendered them so.

    i am starting to wonder if our lock down will come about as a result of whorehay being the match that is setting the world on fire. he is all over the globe stirring things up. we are on the brink of world war three. everyday more crap. at this moment africa, south america, asia, middle east are all on the brink and the pots are being stirred by this country. if stuff really blows in any of these places we are immediately on lock down “for our protection”.

    any thoughts on this?

  49. jo says:

    early news this morning,

    law/police officials from around the world are meeting in los angeles this week. one of the things they are addressing are gangs, mainly, ms 13 “because since they have been removed from usa, they are operating in other countries” first, when did they become no longer in this country ? hum….
    secondly, what are all the other things that these “officials” discussing. hum…..

    possibly us and our counterparts in the other countries? yep, that sounds about right to me

  50. seven_staarten says:

    it’s the First Amendment, estúpida.

    jest in case y’all don’t get alerts from FAIR ~

    Amnesty Proponents Launch Campaign to Shut Down Debate!
    Please Act Now to Ensure Our Voices are Heard!

    Having lost last year’s epic legislative battle over the Bush-Kennedy amnesty bill, pro-amnesty forces are regrouping and launching an all-out campaign to censor the media and stop the debate over true immigration reform. This attack on the media should not come as a surprise. Having failed at every turn to win the immigration debate on the merits, pro-amnesty groups now have little choice but to try to shut it down. WE NEED YOUR HELP TO ENSURE THAT OUR VOICES ARE HEARD AND THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PRESERVED!

    As part of this campaign, La Raza and other amnesty proponents are specifically targeting corporate executives at CNN, MSNBC, and FOX and are asking them to ban representatives from pro-enforcement organizations such as FAIR and NumbersUSA from the airwaves. This amounts to nothing more than an attempt to censor the media and control what points of view the American public can hear. To read more about these attacks on the media, see this Associated Press article.

    FAIR is urging all members, activists, and friends to take action immediately to counter this attack on the media!!!! Please contact the media executives listed below and tell them how important it is that both sides of the immigration debate are presented on the airwaves. Tell them organizations like FAIR and NumbersUSA represent millions of Americans who want our immigration laws enforced. Please use the email, fax, or phone numbers below to respectfully share your opinions. To send a fax, click here. To see a sample email, click here.

    This alert is of critical importance!!! Right now, media outlets continue to give voice to the millions of Americans who want true immigration reform. However, if media executives do not hear from you, the only voices they will hear are from amnesty proponents!!! Let them know that your opinion matters too!!!

    Mr. Jim Walton
    President CNN Worldwide
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    Viewer Response Line/Comments
    Call 212-275-7800 ask for Viewer Response Line

    Mr. Roger Ailes
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    Sample Email:
    Dear Mr. (name of executive),

    You have probably heard from amnesty proponents and special interest organizations asking your network to not allow groups such as the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Numbers USA to be allowed on air as guests. As a viewer and as a concerned American wanting to here both sides of the immigration debate, I strongly object to these McCarthy-like tactics designed to silence the voices of longstanding, credible organizations fighting for meaningful immigration reform.

    Immigration reform is one of the most important issues of our time. It deserves broad media attention and a vigorous, robust national debate. And, while disagreement is a perfectly acceptable part of this public policy process, shutting down debate through censorship, intimidation, and baseless allegations is not and never will be acceptable to me, nor should it be acceptable to media organizations that pride themselves on being independent. I cherish living in a nation where our First Amendment rights allow Americans to hear all sides of all issues.

    The Federation for American Immigration Reform is the largest and oldest immigration reform group in America. Over the course of 30 years, FAIR has testified before Congress over a hundred times, and has appeared on your network and others on a weekly basis offering fair, practical and effective solutions to our immigration problems.

    By attempting to dictate who may and may not appear as guests on your network, pro-amnesty special interest organizations are doing nothing less than attempting to silence their largest threat - groups that they disagree with and who represent the vast majority of Americans. I urge you to resist this coordinated campaign to stop the debate.


    (your name)

  51. jo says:


    will immediately. it has already started . this morning on the view they had heraldo reverria on and played his confrontation with dobbs or orielly, i forget. but they only played the part where heraldo was raving and stopped just before the other could respond. then they gave heraldo free range to put forth the whole agenda about the racist dogs who hate immigrants and target the poor mexicans who only want
    blah, blah, blah. and the ladies on the view questioned nothing and give up much sympathy and understanding. it was shameful, before he came on the idiots step it up with talking about the election and was it more racial (obama) or more sexist ( bilary).so when he came out they asked him if he thought racism or sexism was worse in this country. he said racism and went into his spiel, but what else can we expect from that cfr barbara walters. even that little rat face nazi elizabeth hasselback was sympathic to heraldo. THE VIEW, channel 7 news. lets get busy.

    it?s the First Amendment, estúpida.


  52. jo says:


    heraldo’s presentation was not confrontationaly and was exactly as was laid out by the think tank that was posted on this site from huffington.

  53. jo says:

    they will be hitting every talk show no doubt.

  54. BEADALONG says:

    #48. Yea Jo, I’m wondering the exact same thing. And I think we’re headed for a major depression {no matter what they say}…..I wonder if the people around 1928 or 29 were told not to worry either before they got hit with the “Depression” or how the people in the Weimer Republic in Germany got hit where they were carrying wheelbarrows of money or burning it…..South America also had its share of economic downturns…..So, this can definitely happen to us again.

    I’ve been reading on Jeff Rense what’s been happening to Zimbabwe and that crooked leader, Mugabe by Cathy Buckle. It’s horrible.

    and with all that’s going on to deliberately undermine the middle class and still sock us with taxes:
    1. While they completely ignore Corporate behavior-offshoring, outsourcing, all manner of Visa holders
    2. They iignore the huge underground economy of the illegal aliens.
    3. Completley ignoring the MASSIVE amounts of REMITTENCE money being sent out along and the services who aide this such as banks and wiring services, the never-ending wars, the MASSIVE Trade deficits, etc).
    4. Not cutting off ALL benefits to illegal aliens including school and free births.

    Then we get hit major time with the ‘Subprime mortgages’.

    This just isn’t sustainable, so no matter how wonderful they say the economy is going, I’m not trusting them.

    Also, I read that a protection against another depression was signed away by Bill Clinton. It essentially ABOLISHED the GLASS-STEAGAL Act.

  55. BEADALONG says:

    #50. Thanks for the Heads up Seven_staarten…..Heeeere we go again!

    And isn’t it amazing that groups like La Raza and like-minded people are bitching about us when they are grossly OVER-REPRESENTED in the White House, and actually get to sit at their tables negotiating with them and they get massive funding and here we are……

  56. BEADALONG says:

    The SAC Bee has this article: Politics-In a Massive Disaster, Care Will be Scarse. …State Guidelines Lay Framework for Deliberately Some People Die. it’s a 2-page article but I only cut & pasted pg 1.

    ARTICLE (Page 1)

    Older, sicker patients could be allowed to die in order to save the lives of patients more likely to survive a massive disaster, bioterror attack or influenza pandemic in California.

    It’s not how nurses and doctors are accustomed to doing things, nor how Californians expect to be treated. But it is part of a sweeping statewide plan being praised for its breadth, even as it rankles providers who will have to carry it out.

    The new “surge capacity guidelines” released by the state Department of Public Health, depict a post-disaster health care environment that looks and feels nothing like the system most Californians depend on.

    It provides for scenarios in which patients could be herded into school gymnasiums for life-saving care or animal doctors could stitch up the human wounded and set their broken bones.

    The 1,900-page document lays the practical ? and ethical ? groundwork for local and county health departments, hospitals, emergency responders and any able-bodied health care worker likely to be called upon in a catastrophe.

    Striking in its specificity and its frank focus on the need to suspend or flex established laws and to ration health care, the plan is being hailed as a model for the rest of the nation.

    “I don’t know of any state that has taken it to this level of detail in outlining a surge plan for everyone who needs to respond to an emergency of this magnitude,” said Jeff Levi, executive director of Trust for America’s Health, a nonprofit group that has criticized the nation’s emergency preparedness. “It’s exactly the kind of dialogue that has to happen.”

    The conversations emerging from the plan will be very painful, especially for professionals trained to save a life at almost any cost, said Betsey Lyman, deputy director for public health emergency preparedness at the state Department of Public Health.

    “Today, the practice of medicine is do everything you can for an individual patient,” Lyman said. “This is, ‘OK, we have limited resources. How do we best save the greatest number of lives?’ That can mean saying to an individual patient, I can’t give you a ventilator because I don’t have enough for everybody.”

    The $5 million plan was developed as a result of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 2006 health care surge initiative. That $172 million effort included the stockpiling of millions of doses of antiviral medications, thousands of ventilators, mobile field hospitals and extra hospital beds.

    But health care officials acknowledge that when and if a global pandemic or major disaster strikes, no amount of extra drugs or supplies will be sufficient to manage the impact on an already strained health care system.

    That’s why the state assembled public health professionals, hospitals, ethicists, nurses and others to hash out guidelines for procedures they hope will minimize red tape and maximize survival rates.

    The plan lists, for example, which responsibilities and patient protections can be waived if the governor declares a state of emergency.

    Hospitals will not have to report births, deaths, infectious disease outbreaks, medication errors, and suspected child or elder abuse. Existing rules that protect patients’ privacy also can be tossed out.

    Dr. Ron Chapman, Solano County health officer and a key surge plan participant, cited as an example the bare-bones approach to caring for people in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. There, he said, a friend’s leg was sliced open by a piece of glass while he was helping haul away debris.

    “They took him to a Wal-Mart parking lot. He stood in line, walked in, they sewed him up, gave him a pack of antibiotics and sent him on his way,” Chapman said. “They never asked his name or his insurance status.”

    The guidelines say California’s strict nurse-patient ratios can be ignored, and nurses can be assigned to jobs for which they have no experience.

    The scenarios worry nursing leaders. “If you are going to throw out regulations ? we know the consequences can be very bad,” said Donna Gerber, government regulations director for the California Nurses Association. “(The regulations) wouldn’t be there except to protect the public.”

  57. BEADALONG says:

    So, is it possible that our government have some evil plan cooked up for us in CA? I wonder why this came out. Maybe it’s nothing (Yay if it’s nothing), but anymore, I have to wonder.

  58. melody says:

    I think banks are the safest to do business with so I’m ok with my bill pay situation.

    My concern about banks is related to my concerns about the one world order crap. For example if the gov. just wanted you to get by, they could check your bank account and if you have a nest egg tell the boss to send you home early a lot or lay you off or if a lot of people who work for the employer have their houses payed for, have the employer go out of business so the workers have to go back in debt. Anyway, the same people seem to own everything, and the goal seems to be that we never get ahead. It seems like they just want us to get by, and stay in debt.

    One way the gov. can sneak and do this would be with social policies that reward people for not saving any money or getting out of debt.

    For example, if you apply for social programs like food stamps and home energy assistance, they have to know all your business before they will help you. You can’t get any help until most of your assets are spent. Food stamps is a good thing and I’m proud to live in a country that trys to feed most of it’s people, but I can see how it can be used for social control.

    The result is that illegals who make anchor babies often wind up better off than us, because we are not carefree as some of them are. Some of us citzens know that this country hasn’t always had such good welfare. I don’t feel like having kids just so I can get social services. I don’t think it’s worth the risk of not getting any help, then being stuck with kids I can not take care of. But a person from another country who don’t understand the history of the U.S. can’t imagine not getting help.

  59. BEADALONG says:

    #59, That’s horrible, Watchdog.

  60. BEADALONG says:

    #46. Wow, quite a video. I think Rialto has a problem. And they’re waving those guns around in public like that? I’m surprised the police didn’t show up.

  61. BEADALONG says:

    Check this Pelosi stinker


    Pelosi’s Communist Treachery
    Knows No Bounds
    Wants To Tax Your Retirement Income
    From Bob P.

    Zionist Communist Nancy Pelosi

    Anyone who understands a fiat monetary system, our system, knows that most retirement funds lose real value and are not exactly what persons hopes for at the end of their work lives. Some are, and those typically go to people in the public sector. We contribute greatly to those through a myriad of taxes.

    Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you’re so damned stupid that we’re going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That’s what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below……………

    Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. This woman is a nut case! You aren’t going to believe this.

    Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401Ks and Mutual Funds! Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants (allowed across open borders) and other unemployed minorities!

    Boy, are we in trouble… This woman is frightening. She quotes…” We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.”

    When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied : “We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help (so help them Madam — with your own money) along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Americans’.” (Karl Marx and Lenin must be smiling)

    Send it on to your friends. I just did!! This lady is out of her mind.

    (Correction, please: No, she isn’t out of her mind. The jack- asses that elected her are out of their minds or just plain STUPID!) Be of good cheer, the “Good Republicans” will save us from “The Bad Democrats” unless Ron Paul and more like him are placed in charge of returning the USA to sanity and to the rule of Constitutional Law! bp

    This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from

    Pelosi story disconfirmed on snopes
    From: “C P”
    Date: Sun, March 2, 2008 5:41 pm

    Some of the language attributed to Nancy Pelosi in your link here sounded sort of
    artificial and awkward. I looked it up on, and it looks like this derives from a forwarded fabrication from 2006. If you think about it, would Pelosi really use the phrase “standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help”

  62. BEADALONG says:

    Oops, looking at the bottom of this article I just sent (unfortunately I didn’t read that part)-SORRY, Snopes says it’s “derived from a forwarded fabrication from 2006).

    Sorry, Any articles I send in the future, I will read at the bottom also.

  63. The Watchdog says:

    Litew8 - I just read your comment #14.

    The problem was the word “cialis” was blacklisted and the word “socialist” has “cialis” in it, so WordPress was deleting your post. Sorry about that.

    If anyone has a problem with something it is best to email me because I don’t have time to read everything people post here.

    Since I’m using a new SPAM filter I don’t need to have words like that in a blacklist, so I deleted them all.

    I’m also testing out some plugins that will allow you guys to edit your own comments. I just tried one but it was buggy.

    Also comment #35. This website uses WordPress software but it is not hosted with their service. I’ve been using IX Web hosting for a while now. Before that I was with PowWeb.

  64. melody says:

    I google searched Ron Paul. I saw somewhere where they said Ron Paul had dropped out. I was going to post a link, but I can’t find it again. I think it’s a hoax. Anybody know? I checked the Ron Paul myspace page and it don’t mention anything about dropping out.

  65. The Watchdog says:

    Melody, shortly after the super Tuesday primary Ron Paul announced that he would not seek a third party nomination. He cut loose much of his campaign staff and I don’t think he’s actively campaigning right now. It’s obvious the Republican nomination is going to McCain. I really thought that Ron Paul would jump to the Libertarian ticket and go all the way to election night but he’s not. Its very disappointing. He said he needs to focus on his congressional re-election but he’s always been easily re-elected and he doesn’t have any competition. Plus, he’s sitting on a lot of campaign money. I wish he would’ve gone all the way, just to get his message out to more people. I think it was a bad move on his part.

  66. Eddie B. says:

    I can learn something new every day! Thanks litew8!

  67. Eddie B. says:

  68. melody says:

    They might as well declare somebody King. The whole election seems to be a show they put on for us. I guess its nice of the people in charge to pretend our votes count.

  69. Mayday says:

    According to the media only the latino vote counts. When have we heard anything about the American vote? I am so sick of this hispandering.

  70. jo says:

    young black high school student killed in harbor gate late night ,(non gang member) outstanding student and football star, by two hispanics that the investigators DON”T THINK was racially motivated is no longer the lastest victim of these scumbags. this afternoon, two hispanics opened fire on a SUV with women and children in it. 6 yrs old boy was shot in the head. they said he is in the hospital. alive or dead?. don’t know. let’s see if they DON”T THINK this is racially motivated

  71. jo says:

    on news last night and this morning, “if you have gift cards from stores better use them as some stores will be closing. they didn’t said which ones…… (IMO)
    certainly not walmart or home depot.

  72. jo says:


    they just said they DON”T THINK this shooting was racially motivated. the
    comentator ended by saying this shooting was done for some senseless reason. yeah……….racism!

    the people in the SUV did not even live in habor gate, they were just riding thru while being black.

    in the last 2 weeks there have been 8 other shootings in habor gate of which no deaths resulted, or so they say.

    in all these case gang signs were thrown by the shooters.

  73. jo says:

    well the police officials from all over the world are having their meeting in los angeles this week, so maybe if this continues they will be able to practice what they are putting together if los angeles goes up in flames. something real bad is gonna happen if they allow this shit to continue. they will front it like it is a black and latino war. right now it is no war, it is a slaughter.

  74. Angel says:

    Watchdog, Paul was getting too much attention and that’s why he’s stepped out. He’ll reappear to be a pretend fighter for your cause as needed. Just an appeasement.

    Didn’t the same thing happen with Ross Perot? He started to become really popular and then went behind the scenes for a while.

    Everybody… please wake up and see this. This one is hard to swallow. The entire thing was staged. You’ve been had.

    I believe it for a while at first.

    If there is one thing most Americans need to do it is “observe” and notice everything. You’ll see a lot.

  75. Angel says:

    Sniff Sniff

    Rush Limbaugh and that Cunningham guy are telling voters to vote for Hillary out of defiance of John McCain. Gosh, the people writing these parts are ingenious. Anyone telling people to vote for Hillary before Obama or McCain is either nuts or part of it.

  76. Angel says:

    “Remember, our Lord says that men who love darkness hate the light.”

  77. melody says:

    I know I feel had.

    I don’t think people in the bible belt will vote for Obama, not after their churches talk about him supporting partial birth abortions. I don’t keep up on the issue, but I know some people get very upset when they think about babies, and will vote 100 percent on the abortion issue. I’m guessing McCain will be the next president.

  78. melody says:

    I am so disappointed. What a boring election. If the monsters in charge feel they need to put on a show for us, could they at least make it entertaining?

  79. Angel says:


    The election has been status quo. Just for you…. the veil has been lifted, and that’s why you are bored. I’m sure they’ll have more of the “neck and neck” stuff to try and keep you intrigued.

    I’m glad that you can see the light!


  80. melody says:

    Who will you vote for now?

  81. jo says:


    i saw through paul ron from jump street, but so many people needed to believe in him. the “masters” have thought of everything and made sure that everyone had someone to “believe in” and remained involved in this whole phony process. as long as people “have hope” they will be less inclined to create problems that might get out of control and to buy time. i really couldn’t understand how people couldn’t hear what i heard every time paul opened his mouth. to me his personal appearance reminded me of a drunk that someone cleaned up and put a suit on him.

    there is no one that can halt this now except the people enmassed and that is not gonna happen. beware of anyone who speaks out about what is going on because they have been judged by the masters to be a non threat (totally impotent )or they are role playing for the benefit of the masters.

  82. melody says:

    I have wondered about David Icke and that reptile stuff. If he is telling the truth, why do they let him tell it? Seems like if he was telling the truth, the masters would have got rid of him already.

    I think David Icke is one of them. How does it help the masters for some of us to think there are human creatures who can shapeshift into reptiles?

  83. jo says:


    all this talk about abortion is the christian right at work. this is about overturning the law. these are the same people that consider bombing abortion clinics acts of god. ron paul who was funded big time by the “right to life” nuts, when asked his position on the law, came up with that stupid smirk on his face and turned the question to “you don’t want babies being aborted at 8 months do you. that is not what people who support the law are saying, that was not what the law was about. for someone who wants less gov’t in our lives, he believes the gov’t has the right to tell a women what to do with her body. women will always have abortions. it is about, will it only be women of means that can have safe ones and will the other women return to back rooms, kitchen tables and death. we have and have always had a morally bankrupt foster care system, so why would any sane person want to cause more children( those ALREADY born) to be ophans and more women to destroy their bodies and lives. this is about the government controlling people in the most invasive way. we have so much to say about how other cultures treat women and try to control them and yet we have this ongoing campaign to overturn a law that was put on the books to
    make women more equal in their destiny.

    and i too resent the fact that they have made the whole fiasco so freaking boring. i respect a good sharp game, even if i don’t like what it is about. the crap is just so insulting to our intelligence.

  84. melody says:

    If the U.S really wanted to be fair, all the states would have their primary elections on the same day. I can’t believe I never questioned this primary crap before.
    True, they are just buying time.

    300 hundred million people in the U.S. and we get Obama, Hillary, and McCain?
    Something has to have been rigged!

  85. jo says:


    there is no one advocating partial birth abortions. this has always been the twisted argument of the RTL nuts. they are the ones smearing obama with this shit, which
    makes me know that obama is probably for the law as it is on the books.

  86. melody says:

    Sometimes I get the feeling that the “masters” want to take away a woman’s right to use safe effective birth control. They let American women pretend to be equal long enough. Now they want the men to take charge again.

    If your husband wants 16 kids, under some governments, that is just too bad. No divorce, no escape, make babies till it wears your body out and you die.

    Maybe this is why the masters like illegals from the 3rd world so much. They are already use to the idea that a man is master of his house. Many think birth control is evil.

  87. jo says:


    the masters like no one but their own kind. the illegals are nothing more to them than tools to be used for their own gains. they are the WMD, to blow our economy and our way of life out of the water. to divert our sight , like a magican in a cheap carnival show. all men are not created equal in the eyes of the masters and the men of the women they seek to control are of no more value then the women. this whole abortion contraversety at this time is a way to make the religious right believe that they are of importance in the scheme of things. it is allowing the focus of millions , that the religious right controls, to feel important and righteous. it is encouraging the people to engage in something that uses the energies that could cause problems otherwise. it also is payback for the religious right’s support of the war and support of the masters plans to kill “the enemies” in the middle east for the ultimate takeover. the followers of the religious right believe they need to aid israel to take over for the return of jesus and that bullshit works for the masters. the masters are not concerned with the control of anyone in any real sense as that is already in place. they do not worry about over population in this country or any other. they are the masters of genocide and have centuries of experience. when you are masters of genocide is never a problem. the fitest will survive and the others are of no consequence. they have the concience of serial killers, because in fact they are serial killers. the mistakes that people make when they try to understand and don’t get it is because you can not find sane reasoning in the insane mind. what the masters fully understand is that if it is horrible enough people will not see it because their minds will not allow them to accept it.

  88. litew8 says:

    BEADALONG said:
    March 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Oops, looking at the bottom of this article I just sent (unfortunately I didn?t read that part)-SORRY, Snopes says it?s “derived from a forwarded fabrication” from 2006″. Sorry, any articles I send in the future, I will read at the bottom also.

    BEADALONG, I’m not certain. The comments at the bottom of the article sound like a someones interpertation. The scary part, I actually think I remember Nancy saying those exact things in a speach a while back, last year (2007). And so YES, I can, I actually believe I HAVE heard her say those EXACT WORDS.

  89. litew8 says:

    ^^ *speech

    The Watchdog said:
    March 4th, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Litew8 - I just read your comment #14. The problem was the word “cialis” was blacklisted and the word “socialist” has “cialis” in it, so WordPress was deleting your post. Sorry about that. If anyone has a problem with something it is best to email me because I don?t have time to read everything people post here. Since I?m using a new SPAM filter I don?t need to have words like that in a blacklist, so I deleted them all.

    I?m also testing out some plugins that will allow you guys to edit your own comments. I just tried one but it was buggy.

    Also comment #35. This website uses WordPress software but it is not hosted with their service. I?ve been using IX Web hosting for a while now. Before that I was with PowWeb.

    Okay. Thank you for the explanation.
    Editing features! Thank you.

    As for the hosting, sorry I mis-spoke. But what I said would still apply - since the comment text is being compiled/rendered via WordPress. Since you are using a real hosting company for your site, you can (if available) incorporate som cool features. Let me know if you’d like assistance in developing some new things, or perhaps streamlining your site - then adding new features.

  90. jo says:

    just heard on the news that bilary said she would not mind sharing the ticket with obama, but the “people” must decide who will top the ticket. is this sh*t weird enough for you yet? the plan unfolds. it takes two of them to do the job of one hilter. it will be interesting to watch the “people” embrace this “novel” idea. their coming together should be a real youtube moment. the “people” do not have to awaken, but can continue to sleep, believing that they are saved.tsk,tsk,tsk………

  91. jo says:


  92. HellDogger says:

    And now comes President Hillary! The most hated woman on the planet & she is about to be the President of the United States! We will all take a serious look at our electoral process after this.
    She’ll win the general just like she won last night. By Default.

  93. jo says:


    talking about the money and the gov’t and their plans for our financial future. this was on a program the other day. debit cards for the 401k program. making it real easy for people to take money out of their 401k accounts, so that down the road they have zip. also, this will generate lots of dollars for irs, and other financial institutions.
    people have proved over and over again that they make poor judgement calls when it comes to handling money and has the economy gets worse people will take the money out from sheer need. so your thinking is correct.

    the thing about the food stamps is that they give citizens a real differcult time about getting any and what they figger out when they do give is not enough to really feed them. like with most of these gov’t “give aways”, they are heavily tilled to immigrants (legal and illegal). they have very little to prove and they have interperters to say things the “correct” way. if you remember years ago, you may be too young, but there was a two year limit put on americans to collect walfare unless they were over 65 or had some horrible disability and then it would be a combination of ssi etc. these same things do not apply for legals/ illegals in particular. the fact that they don’t speak english and/or in a foreign land is considered qualifing for “special treatment”, the rules do not apply to them as usual. over at the social security offices you will find more brochures, on more reasons to collect ssi in spanish. generally just a few brochures on a few things in english.

  94. jo says:

    have a child , don’t discipline it, look stupid and whine that you can’t do anything with it and viola you have a child that is placed on the autism spectrum and then you can get more goodies. it is ok if they dope the little bastard up, it is good money.

  95. melody says:

    My mother grew up in the 40’s and 50’s. She says when she was growing up a well adjusted child was one that knew how to sit down and mind his own business.

    What a surprise the 70’s and 80’s brought my mother when my teachers were grading me on how many friends I had and asking my mother how many friends I had at home.

    Gee, who feels like watching 5 kids so your 5 year old can have a “play date”, and be able to develop proper social skills?

    Some parents don’t want to watch kids so the “play dates” will always be at your house. All that free babysitting so 1 or 2 kids can get “people skills”.

    In some ways the Americans had it easier in the 40’s and 50’s. Spank the kid on the butt a few times and the kid gets the message. In the 70’s (I don’t know when this fad started) the experts were telling parents not to spank their kids so many parents raised kids trying to reason with them.

    I think it’s all part of the outcome based education. The outcome is the child grows up to be a person who will need therapy the rest of his or her life and feels he needs an expert to approve of everything he does.

  96. melody says:

    Part of the “outcome” is for doctors to always have a job precribing medication to people who never grew up.
    The following is a pretend session:
    “Doctor I’m not happy, somebody called me a name when I was 8. I don’t know if I can ever forgive this person. It has been 500 years, and I’m still hurt.

    The doctor holds back either laugher or disgust as he plays the game. “You know I have some meds that will make you feel better.”

    The patient on SSI also plays the game. When nobody is looking he throws the pills in the garbage because he don’t like the side effects. But good news he don’t have to work so he thinks he is outsmarting the government.

    These doctors probably talk about their patients behind their backs and laugh all the way to the bank knowing that if they ever cure these people they will lose their jobs.

    It is a shame that people have to give SSI a bad name by using it as a type of Welfare, but I blame our government because they know some of these people are desperate for money and might not be able to find a job and have to do something to get by.

    Some people really need SSI. I’m just talking about the people who seem to be playing the game.

  97. Eddie B. says:

    Well, my pants certainly fit better after watching the propoganda last night. Not sure who made me hurl harder but McCain sure did the job. And his wife witht eh banana yellow outfit…. whew.

    We are surely screwed and tattooed. Fer sure.

  98. AmericanWorker says:

    Folks can use our help . Amnesty Proponents Launch Campaign to Shut Down Debate! Let your voice be heard.

  99. jo says:



    i grew up in the 40-50’s and believe it or not the gov’t was screwing with the children at that time. my parents placed us in catholic school because in the public schools they were going thru the crap of ” we mustn’t stifle johnny/mary. if they want to walk around the room or don’t feel like doing the work, then let them be. they need to be free to explore and express themselves.” my parents said hell no to that type of environment and off we went to catholic school where they felt free to kick our little asses. some of those nuns were so mean walking around in their habits and wedding bands (being married to god and all), i used to call them brides of satan. our bodies were covered in uniforms with the same expectations for our minds ,but we learned a hell of a lot and could run rings around most public school students. my parents were strict and the school was strict, but in every generation there were parents that did not parent and let their children get away with murder. in order for a parent to discipline a child, a parent must have self discipline. stuff really headed south when the people allowed the gov’t to tell them how they could not discipline their child and gave the child the upper hand. of course, there were /are those of us who never brought into any of that. my child can testify to that. LOL . he is a strong man and father today and faces adversity with a attitude that inspires a deep admiration in me. together we laugh about the “crazy lady” who raised him.

    in the past, there was a lot of abuse that masqueraded as discipline, and today i think people’s conciousness has been raised to understand the difference, but
    for many it was an excuse not to step up to the plate at all. some people actually fear repimanding their children because someone will say something or the children might tell someone or the child might hate them. a smack on the ass never caused physical harm to anyone . a parent’s job is to set bountries and a child’s job is to test those bountries. patheticly, more children are doing their jobs then the parents are doing theirs. the gov’t should have no no job in this relationship, and those in the gov’t or other positions “of authority” usually have children totally out of control, if they have children at all.

    for a while i had pictures of nazi germany in my head when in the late 80’s( i believe) they were encouraging children to turn their parents in for doing drugs. come to think of it ,i haven’t heard of that in a long time. guess they pulled back on that program. but you are correct, we have a couple of generations that don’t have a clue and need oprah and dr. phil etc. to tell them in with direction they should wipe their butts. watching that show “the nanny” is a major indictment of. how low and lost the family structure has become. it seems that people have been playing so long “at being” that all reality is gone.

    they are encouraged to pop a pill to make the boo boo (called life) go away, while being inundated with other peoples success stories laced with lies , making them feel impotent and lacking self worth. they live , for the most part, beyond their means and still are not “happy”. they can’t understand it, because they have been brained washed by the media, with words and pictures. they feel betrayed, making them prime candidates for the ultimate betrayal. if any citizen can get anything out of this gov’t seemingly for free, then i say get it. you and yours have probably paid for it already or will do so at some future date. if you can find your way thru the maze, then god bless ya.
    at this point, it is ALL a game on every level and none of it is fair, but who the hell ever promised that it would be.

  100. K2 says:

    It was only a matter of time, really. From Gramscian curriculum via Newspeak, to open Program. California Schools to officially OK the indoctrination of Communism, and strike all restrictions on Communists.

  101. K2 says:

    Bear in mind to what end the sorts of legislation being passed now, under Bush, will be used once in the hands of the likes of Clinton, Obama. With SPLC, The Race and ADL oversight. It may not look like much, superficially, but once this spreads, Communism will actually be a part of the State, and Government, as an officially endorsed doctrine. This is pertinent to S1959, and the definitions of opposition etc.

  102. Sandman says:

    K2 #100, next time you are in Target, pick up a few Xtra “Che” T-shirts for future use. They win points at Tan Klan marches and Hillary rallys.
    BTW, Lou Dobbs is on the Alex Jones show today for the first time. Great interview.

  103. BEADALONG says:

    Thanks Litew8. Pelosi is after all, very much pro-illegal.

  104. NoYouCant says:

    I thought this was interesting.

  105. BEADALONG says:

    #104. Great video, NoYouCant.

    I think it’s extremely important for everyone here to check this out on PROJECT BLUE BEAM. Project Blue Beam is done by NASA with ELF and VLF.

    Ken Adachi on the web site of Educate also talked about Project Blue Beam.

    There’s 2 other videos I checked out on PROJECT BLUE BEAM as well.
    1. Illuminati The Blue Beam Project Top Secret, parts 1-2.
    2. Zeitgeist and the Blue Beam Project connection.

  106. The Watchdog says:

  107. NoYouCant says:

    Here’s a good example of new technology.

    Didn’t folks in Texas, I think, recently see “UFO’s?”

  108. NoYouCant says:

    One more/new technology.

  109. Sandman says: LOU DOBBS interview last Thursday by Alex Jones.

  110. Sandman says:

    # 108, is that how our next Prophet will be delivered to the masses. Real time 3D virtual realit

  111. Sandman says:

  112. BEADALONG says:

    Yea, I know Project Blue Beam sounds completely bizarre and belongs in the SciFi section, but the technology is there. Thanks NoYouCant for the videos. I should have thought of that when I made the comment.

    Well, I truly hope that scenario never happens, but if it does, we’ll know what to expect. It will sure be a shock to many unsuspecting people if it does. It’ll be enough if a shock when and if it happens and we’re knowledgeable about it as well. Well, I guess enough on that subject from me anyway.

  113. BEADALONG says:

    That’s a great Lou Dobbs-Alex Jones interview.

  114. litew8 says:

    NoYouCant said:
    March 8th, 2008 at 6:28 am

    Didn?t folks in Texas, I think, recently see “UFO?s?”

    Yep. That was at the O’Hare airport. I had read that people that seen it described it as hovering about 300 ft in the air (above the watchtower), then BAM! shot nearly straight up leaving a hole in the clouds.

    Here’s an article from NPR (which I don’t visit of listen to) about the more recent incident (I believe you are talking about NoYouCant).
    Link = Stephenville, Texas - UFO Sighting Jan. 16, 2008

    Here’s the VIDEO (I’m starting to watch now) if you want to skip to it.
    Link = Stephenville, Texas - UFO Sighting Jan. 16, 2008 : VIDEO

  115. Sandman says:

    Beadalong, I did not know too much about Project Bluebeam before you mentioned it…Is that for REAL?

  116. Sandman says:

    …Also Beadalong, what do you think of all the talk about the dangers of Flouride in our public water systems? There is growing talk about this subject because the findings from many studies are conclusive:

  117. AmericanWorker says:

    Turned on the tube today and was surfing for something to watch. Found out that all NASCAR tracks sure have a nice FENCE around the tracks. So I was thinking there are ____ miles of fences around these tracks but yet the BORDERS are wide open. Drivers start your engines !!!!!!!!!!!

  118. Angel says:

    *81 Right on Jo. You’ve got it. Unfortunately, the rest of the country doesn’t have a clue. They get manipulated every night by the media circus.

    Also someone above mentioned David Icke being one of them. I’ve read that somewhere. My only thoughts are maybe it’s no fun to pull the wool over the eyes of the human race without some knowing what’s really going on. Who knows……. I do know one thing…..I was in the bookstore the other day and stumbled across the book Children of the Matrix by David Icke. Check it out. It’s a must read.

    I’d rather be in the light of the know than in the dark.

  119. Angel says:

    Someone….something doesn’t want me to post a message. I typed a long one and then poof it disappeared .


  120. The Watchdog says:

    Angel, I rescued it from the SPAM filter.

  121. melody says:

    I’m not sure what to believe about David Icke. A lot of what he says is true, but I’ve never seen a person that can shape shift into a reptile. I don’t understand why he is able to talk about this stuff if it is true, but I guess most people don’t seem to believe him so I guess the lizards would have no reason to care.

    I do find it interesting that the powerful people seem to always want to hire an immigrant to work in their house. I guess if an immigrant saw them turn into giant lizards, they would fear deportation or worse, so they would be the best choice to keep their secrets.

    However, if I saw somebody turn into a giant lizard, I would be afraid to tell anybody. Not sure anybody would believe me.

    I like to refer to the powerful people as “lizards” because they are not one of us, but what are they? I’m not sure I want to find out.

  122. steaknife says:

    Sorry to get off the subject but I thought it important news I recieved the last couple of days. Here in Illinois we have alot of gun shows. My friends who regularly attend these are all telling me that they are seeing more guns being sold then ever. One guy said it’s getting crazy! Also, he said ammo sales are through the roof. One guy had tablesof ammo & reloading supplies & was completely sold out in a couple hours. The wolf is at the door people. Are you prepared?

  123. Eddie B. says:

    You got that right steaknife! An unarmed population is nothing more than sheeple being preped to get sheared. And the US citizen is the last man standing with guns. Once they have our guns then the game will get really rough.

    Never forget why we left England and Eurtope in the first pplace 232 years ago. History repeats itself.


  124. NoYouCant says:

    Building NAFTA’s CANAMEX Supercorridor

  125. jo says:

    when they demand the guns, and give one the offer they dare not refuse we will be gunless except for the criminals and enforcers of the “law”.

    they already “practiced” it and ironed out the wrinkles in Jamaica in the 70’s.

    they came to the “aid” of the jamaican gov’t , but i believe it was a great opportunity for them to perfect the disarming of this country.

  126. NoYouCant says:

    Listen to this horseshit! Obama, still using the 12 mil number instead of the more accurate 30. Obama saying basically that all hell would break loose because the police would have to focus only on “shipping out” illegal’s while ignoring other crimes. Sickening!

  127. Eddie B. says:

    O-Blah-Blah ia saying whatever the zombies want to hear. I is completely full of horse feathers.

  128. jo says:

    is anyone really expecting anything that even slightly resembles truth coming out of any of these traitors mouths? how do we know they’re lying? their lips are moving!

  129. Gram says:

    Someone send an e-mail to me that I would like to share.

    What a great quote/slogen???????????????????

    “My friends, we live in the GREATEST nation in the history of the world. I hope you”ll join with me as we try to CHANGE it.” (Barak Hussein Obama)

    If this doesn’t worry or bother you….forget that I even mentioned it.

  130. litew8 says:

    That type of talke bothers and scares the living hell out of me Gram. I think he is saying that he wants to “CHANGE” it for the benefit of illegal aliens and south of the border countries. That’s what I think he’s really saying. His rhetoric has always scared me.

    Residents in CA Only:
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    CALIFORNIA Alert! State legislation would penalize business owners for knowingly hiring illegal aliens

    Due to the unwillingness of the federal government to enforce immigration laws at the workplace, Assemblyman Bob Huff (R-Diamond Bar) has introduced legislation to revoke the business licenses of employers who deliberately hire illegal aliens in California.

    Under AB 2421, a business that the court finds to have intentionally employed an unauthorized alien would temporarily or permanently lose its business license.

    Please click here to learn more and to take action!

  131. jo says:


    thank you. DONE!

  132. seven_staarten says:

    Largest U.S. Underground Welfare State
    March 06, 2008 12:00 PM EST


    Thousands of Illegal Alien Squatters? Towns, called ?The COLONIAS,? are located in remote areas along the length of our southern border, and have been funded by ?we? the tax payers through both state and federal legislation. The border states, in conjunction with the federal government, have been working at a furious pace since the early 1990?s at institutionalizing the mechanisms which could help force the amnesty of millions of Illegal Aliens anchored on American soil. The Colonias are a deeply entrenched root system being used to expedite the erasure of our border with a population exploding to an expected 20 million by 2016.

  133. jo says:

    we have all this amunition to shoot these traitors right out of office and into the peoples courts to be tried and convicted as traitors and on other charges of fraud, money laurdering,etc…….but still the people live in denial until there is no turning back from the obvious ending………….it is really unbelievable

  134. Eddie B. says:

    Amen Jo.

  135. Faye says:

    omg… I quit going to church after coming in from busing a load of children from low income housing to Sunday School. This was during the Bust of the 80’s. We always gave our 10% even though we really didn’t have the money to give. Gave up and squeezed real hard in order to give that money. The kids on the bus were real unruly. My husband drove the bus and I monitored. That day a teenaged girl had a broken small pocket mirror. She started to slash a boy sitting next to her. I grabbed her and we rolled around the bus for a while. We finally wound up half on a seat and half off with one of my hands on her throat holding her down and the other in the air ready to punch when she decided she’d had enough. My husband and I plopped down in a pew in the back, winded and exhausted just in time to see a video of our pastor presenting Jerry Falwell a big check. That was the icing on the cake and the end of my participation in organized religion.

    So I’ve not been privy to what’s been happening in our churches the last 20 years. What with Elvira and that Catholic dude and now this…. is this what church is like nowadays?

    This guy needs thorazine and a straight jacket and extended psychotherapy. And a few of these “churches” need to lose their tax exempt status.

  136. The Watchdog says:


    In the past few days I’ve had to edit and delete a few posts. I’m working in a different department at work so I can’t monitor this website as much as I would like to. It states in the FAQ the following:

    Racist demeaning remarks about Hispanics or any ethnic group is not allowed. Making threats of violence towards illegal aliens or elected officials is not allowed either.

    The thought police are out in full force these days. Randy from Save Our State has been held in jail for 4 months now because of something stupid he said on the SOS forum. Control yourselves or you could be next.

    Since I don’t have the time to correct and edit out your indiscretions, I’ll simply ban you.

  137. psj says:

    AMEN to that WatchDog. Nobody is invisible on the net, even via proxy - you CAN and WILL be found, should circumstances warrant it. Lori Drew anyone?

    Internet crime laws are being written and updated constantly. Threatened or perceived violence is being taken quite seriously these days, particularly against public figures. I would strongly advise even posting about the POTUS with any sort of direct or indirect violence. Intended harm towards minority groups (or anybody else) is a hate/crime as well, whether written rhetorically or not.

    You are inviting the Men in Black to come calling, and are putting Watchdog and his site in jeopardy as well. I see he has many (albeit mislead) naysayers on the www, and I’m sure they would love to pounce on open invitations.

  138. Eddie B. says:

    Logged and entered. Thanks Dog!

  139. Sandman says:

    I never thought that I would live in a time (here in this country) when thought police could or would actually exist. I see a double standard because there must be thousands of websites out there that are full of anti-American, anti-White or anti-whatever. Will Obama’s Preacher go to jail for his statements? (he should not, because we still have a first amendment)…I think. This is not America anymore, we spent the last 60 years and trillions of dollars fighting the very thing that we have now….Oh yea, I forgot, we are fighting a “War on Terra” and are not allowed to question these things.LOL

  140. Mayday says:

    There are idiots on youtube and topix that I constantly see posting all white people should die or posting kill whitey with lots of cuss words peppering their comments. You would think the thought police would go after them. There is one set of standards for us and another set for them.

    I would never wish death to people who support the other side of the illegal issue but I’ve read enough death wishes from them that it sure makes me wonder how far they would or will go. Of course I do know with most of them it’s just a lot of hot air and a way to get noticed. Unfortunately it only takes one idiot to start something really bad. It’s just not right.

  141. Angel says:

    Melody, Speaking of David Icke…….. see if you can find a clip of Eliot Spitzer’s original press conference after he had been caught. The original one with his wife by his side. Count how many times he flicks his tongue.

    Check out the book Children of the Matrix by David Icke.

    You all wonder why he could say such true stuff and get away with it. I think that there is some fun in having a few people in the know. But notice that David Icke won’t get prime time news coverage.

  142. Angel says:

    #80 Melody - I will be staying home for the first presidential election ever; no way I can cast a vote for McCain; if Obama had a different stance on illegal immigration then I could with some reservation vote for him; Hillary-no way;

    #110 Sandman - watched the Alex Jones clip with Dobbs; notice that Dobbs will go on Alex Jones show, but I doubt Dobbs will put Alex on his show where the masses could hear this. I question Alex’s motives, but he does tell what is really going on.

  143. seven_staarten says:

    South Texas landowners slow border fence’s progress in court

    Hanen, a Bush appointee, has slowed the government considerably from its preferred pace. He has repeatedly denied government motions for immediate access and instead held hearings for property owners to voice their concerns before ultimately siding with the government.

  144. BEADALONG says:

    Hi Sandman, sorry I didn’t get back to you earlier. In between being sick, trying to get a medical transcription program online (which didn’t work) and trying to find work, it wasn’t a good time.

    Apparently, medical transcription isn’t going to be using tapes much longer and have transitioned to being online. So far, I’m told my computer is fine and I have enough memory on it, but already having tried “iChart” and now Express Scribe with the DSS version, it hasn’t worked. Oh well.

    #115: Project Blue Beam: That was a good video. I can’t say 100% it is true, but I think the technology is out there and if the elite could use it, they will. (The average person on the planet wouldn’t know about this and then, they would think the 2nd coming has indeed arrived)-who would be the wiser…..If this is true and we know what to expect, it would still be a shock to us as well.

    Also, apparently, this was in memory of (SERGE MONAST-a journalist) who also presented the story of the Gulags in the US. He supposedly presented this to {Texe Marrs} and {Alex Jones} has also used some of Texe’s material in the past.

  145. BEADALONG says:

    #116. Wow Sandman, the video of Alex Jones: “Question your Reality” was very powerful to me.

    Yes, apparently, we’ve also been hoodwinked by the fluoride issue as well.

    Book and sites for the fluoride issue:
    1. Book: The Fluoride Deception by Christopher Bryson.
    2. Dr. Joseph Mercola: What your Dentist isn’t Telling You About Fluoride.
    3. Video: The Hidden Agenda-The Fluoride Deception by Dr. Monteith.
    4. Democracy Now: The Fluoride Deception: How a Nuclear Waste Product Made Its Way Into the Nation’s Drinking Water.

    Besides what I saw on the Alex Jones video clip, I’ve also read it causes brittle bones, affects your pituitary gland, makes you more docile (That’s why it was used in the Gulags and the Nazis used it) and it is a… ingredient in RAT POISON.

    I think we should the warnings on Fluoride, but it is hard to find a toothpaste without fluoride. and fluoride is starting to be added to more bottled water. I guess making a paste of baking soda could work. I’ve read where it could be used as a toothpaste (I’ve tried it). Let’s say, “it doesn’t taste the worst, but also doesn’t taste the best either.”

  146. BEADALONG says:

    Oops, that should be: I think we should (HEED) the warnings on Fluoride.

  147. BEADALONG says:

    I also noticed the Alex Jones video was from “Nufffrespect” shown on the right with the pyramid and eye.

    “Nufffrespect” presented another video on Illuminati symbols that I thought was pretty good-although I do have to say, “sometimes a rose is just a rose or a star is just a star.” On the other hand though, there’s symbols that I never thought twice about, but now that I see them, these symbols representing themselves were always right there in front of our faces.

    At the end of the video, it had some of the bloodlines and I’m surprised that there’s quite a few related to “Queen Liz II” and Bill Clinton’s face while being made up was completely expressionless and the eyes seemed like there was nothing behind them and I might as well have looked at wax.

  148. BEADALONG says:

    Wow Angel, Atlanta sure got clobbered by that tornado. I guess any part of the nation can get hit by them, but I thought they were more prevalent in the midwest plains states. I guess I’ll do some more research on that subject. I hope you’re okay.

  149. BEADALONG says:

    #140. I know what you mean Mayday. They seem to get away with all their “hate speech,” but when we say anything, they want to kill our free speech and usually, we’re not cursing. We’re just saying basically: Secure our borders, prosecute the employers and END ALL benefits/freebies going to illegal aliens…….and voila, that’s automatically “hate speech.”

  150. BEADALONG says:

    #135. Wow, that was quite a video, Faye. Yup, a straight jacket would have been perfect for him and definitely, he should lose his tax exempt status.

  151. HellDogger says:

    Hey Sandman & MayDay(139 & 140), you are absolutely right and I hope you understand that we patriots are under assault by the entreprenuers & industrialist that tried to take over the world last generation and our granddads stopped them. Now they are still at it & this time they are using militant minorities, homosexuals and wildeyed hairy legged infantisiders as their army. But the good news is it’s all about to come to a head as soon as this B.S. fony election is over and President Hillary takes office. And that is why Watchdog is right. These “good folks” have definately got their eyes on us, we are their enemy.
    And I am as guilty as anybody, but in my personal life I am surrounded by ding-dongs. The only time I get to be around sane people is when I come here or some other sites I go to. And I guess I get too lax and just start to vent. But I have got to watch it. The time will come for all good things to come out. But let’s not give the beast a break.

  152. BEADALONG says:

    Okay, completely different topic but on a much lighter note, there’s a comedy on You Tube called: {The Mean Kitty Song ak “Hey Little Sparta”} by Cory Williams. I think it’s pretty cute anyway.

  153. BEADALONG says:

    Okay, completely different topic but on a much lighter note, there’s a comedy on You Tube called: {The Mean Kitty Song ak “Hey Little Sparta”} by Cory Williams. I think it’s pretty cute anyway.

  154. BEADALONG says:

    Okay, completely different topic but on a much lighter note, there’s a comedy on You Tube called: {The Mean Kitty Song ak “Hey Little Sparta”} by Cory Williams. I think it’s pretty cute anyway.

  155. BEADALONG says:

    Wow, 3 times? I’m sorry about that.

  156. HellDogger says:

    The Republicrats are having a field day with Obamas preacher and they think that is gonna get their boy Juan McAmnesty elected.
    NewsFlash: Juan McAmnesty is the dirtiest politician in D.C. and Hillary is gonna dice him. They’ll have him up on indictments by the time the general elections get here. He’s way dirtier that Duke Cunningham.
    And look at all the states that don’t have a choice in the Republican Primaries. Rush Limbaugh thinks Texan conservatives are voting for Hillary because he told them too. Wrong Rush. They’re voting for Hillary because she’s the most conservative.
    OMG We are all gonna learn alot about our political system after this election.

  157. BEADALONG says:

    Yea, the CFR and media have done well again. It seems pretty much like Checkmate at this point.

    And Thanks to the media, many people who rely on Mainstream/Lamestream Media don’t even know Ron Paul exists and its up to us to inform as many people as possible about him and maybe, just maybe, there might be a chance.

    But if people really think things are going to change, they’re not going to like the change that’s going to happen…..I think once this election is over, the gloves are going to be completely off and the general populace will be in a very rude awakening.

  158. Eddie B. says:

    Well…. isn’t it great that the MSM has O-Blah-Blah’s Preacher on TV 24X7 with short interruptions to let you know how Spitzer is doing during his upcoming retirement from NY politics?

    This is really great considering how incredibly corrupt and IN YOUR FACE the Stearns Bear scandle is. Buying out Bear at fire sale prices AND making millions on the stock market betting that the stock will go down A WEEK IN ADVANCE….

    Just like the good ol’ days of 9/11. Now those puts made some great money and if they didn’t investigate after 9/11 why investigate them now right?

    Ah… the good ol’ days… almost as good as the Whitewater scandle right?

    God bless good ol’ American corruption. And I am dying to know who clients 1 through 8 were. Maybe there was a President in there somewhere…


  159. BEADALONG says:

    Yea, it’s not looking too good right now, eh Eddie B? I’m kind of afraid to ask, “what’s next”?

  160. The Watchdog says:

    Here are a few people that could teach Rev. Jeremiah Wright a few things about self pity.

  161. BEADALONG says:

    Wow, that’s really impressive!

    I think it depends on how the particular athlete or situation is. These particular people don’t seem like they need any special accommodations.

    Yes, they do face obstacles, but I think if they get help, some of them can achieve a lot. I’m sure this doesn’t apply to everybody disabled, but man, I was really impressed by these guys! Amazing!

  162. jo says:

    Eddie B.

    presidents don’t ever have to buy it, not ever, no matter how big of a freak he is, and for one that will remain nameless, i don’t think barnyard animals count!

  163. jo says:

    just had a thought,

    remember all that stuff that bilary stole when she left the whitehouse and was told she had to return it and she did return some but NOT all. well i just figgered it out.
    she was only holding on to that stuff for when she returned. she didn’t trust that someone else would steal it and/or get it messed up. yeah, that what it was. another case where bilary was misunderstood. i bet it was because she is a woman..yeah….that’s it!

  164. jo says:

    a litite boy had his fifth birthday and his parents gave him a birthday party. the little girl from down the street came and his parents gave her his cake and she blew the candles out. they gave her his ice cream and she ate it all. they gave her his presents and she opened them and broke them all. the little boy started to cry and complain and his parents told him he was being mean-spirited and selfish and that they were ashamed of his horrible attitude and behavior, while the little girl smirked at him and went upstairs to check his bedroom out to see if it was to HER liking. the little boy, at this point was so besides himself that he screamed “get that ugly little bitch out of my house”. there was a knock on the door. his parents opened the door and pointed at him. the men in black grabbed him and said “come with us, you are guilty of a hate crime” the little boy cried out to his parents to save him, but they didn’t even look his way, they had a little girl that needed them.

  165. jo says:

    Here are a few people that could teach Rev. Jeremiah Wright a few things about self pity.

    what the heck does that mean??????????

  166. Angel says:

    Thanks Eddie for the input. So that’s why Obama is making news 24/7 - to cover up the Bear and Stearn controversy. I knew something was up. I can always tell when the media goes gang busters.

  167. Angel says:

    Helldogger - I tried to make a bet with a co-worker that there would be a Hillary win in Nov. He would dare, but he was going on and on about how much he liked McCain. I told him that McCain is not a conservative, and all he said was that he was more conservative than the others. He’s content. See….. the wool can be pulled over the American people and they can get content with such little appeasement.

    Hillary will be the winner even though she is the least liked of the 3. Disenfrachising Florida and Michigan was part of it too. Prepare for a crooked win.

    Destruction of Obama is going on right now. I heard on the radio coming home from work that now they have another preacher at that church saying ugly things. Hmmmm Maybe these preachers have been paid off for all this all of a sudden “talk”. Ever think of that?

  168. Angel says:

    #120 To Watchdog - thanks for retrieving the message :)

  169. jo says:

    this article will show you the points, the plans, and the motives. where we were, where we are, where we are headed. this is like sitting in the wash room and watching the washing machine. this is money laundering at it’s best. the reasons for the deliberate destruction of our systems .

    The Mexican Response to U.S. Health Care

    International Living Postcards–your daily escape

    Wednesday, March 19, 2008
    Merida, Mexico

    Dear International Living Reader,

    paul terhorstThe U.S. health care system is overpriced and out of reach for millions of Americans?and Mexico has the answer.

    According to Mexican news sources, Carlos Slim, Mexican business magnate and second-richest man on the planet, is planning a system of high-quality hospitals in Mexico specifically to cater to U.S. baby boomers.

    One of Slim?s companies, Ideal, has purchased a 49% stake in Grupo Star Medica, a Mexican national hospital chain. Plans are underway for new, high-quality medical centers in Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, and Los Cabos on the Baja California peninsula to cater to U.S. baby boomers who are buying second homes in Mexico?or who simply want to come to Mexico for cheaper health care than they can find in the United States.

    It is estimated that vacation homes sales in Los Cabos increased 30%, and in Puerto Peñasco increased 45% in the last three years. Claudia Velazquez, an analyst for Softec, a real estate market analysis firm, said companies like Grupo Star Medica are just filling niches created by those new homeowners and vacationers. And, she adds, “[Baby boomers] are also choosing Mexico because its health system is much cheaper than in the United States.?

    Slim isn?t the only Mexican businessman who sees an obvious opportunity in the failing U.S. health system. And plans are underway to get more U.S. private insurance companies to pay for medical treatment in Mexico.

    “For a U.S. insurance policy to pay for medical treatment, the treatment has to comply with certain quality control standards, and we are going to participate with products to serve this niche,” said Jaime Jimenez, general director for Mexico Trane, another company following Slim?s lead.

    It?s hard to blame smart Mexican businessmen for capitalizing on such an obvious opportunity. If the United States hadn?t let its health care system get so bloated and profit-hungry that 40 million Americans can?t even afford health insurance, there wouldn?t be a need to outsource it.

    Remember what your dentist used to say? ?Ignore your teeth, and they will go away.? Well, the United States has neglected health care reform for so long that its users really are going away?to Mexico!

    Dan Prescher
    Publisher, International Living

  170. jo says:

    carlos slim will be in charge of our universal healthcare and he will go to canada and hi-jack their’s as well. NAU health care czar . this dude is a human pac man when it comes to industries. he eats them up . this is all so obvious that it makes me want to puke. son of a middle eastern immigrant in mexico. in not so many years blew up to the second richest person on the planet. coming from a corrupt culture doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figger out that this guy is a monster.IMO

    i don’t believe that sky writing will even wake the sheepeople.

  171. jo says:

    i think middle eastern, but could be armienian (sic) immigrant.

  172. jo says:

    mother mexican

  173. Eddie B. says:

    Get ready for the……..



  174. litew8 says:

    Eddie wrote:
    Well?. isn?t it great that the MSM has O-Blah-Blah?s Preacher on TV 24X7 with short interruptions to let you know how Spitzer is doing during his upcoming retirement from NY politics?

    Yep. That’s what I was thinking today. But the other way around, sort of. Initially I thought for sure that Spitzer was set up by illegal aliens. Blackmailed him at first and forced him to push for illegal alien drivers licenses. That fell through big time because the people smacked it down instantly. So they tried to do something else to him, or they pushed him even harder. Instead, he set himself up so he could get busted and be done with it all.

    But I totally agree with you about the rest. How in the hell could people (in the business to know) not know about the cadidates affiliations/past history? They’ve know damn well what these people are envolved in. Unless we’re allowing anyone to run for presidentcy - without any care of what their background is. I cannot believe the information coming out now was not known 10 years ago. It must have - which means they’ve been keeping it a secret. The MSM and the others in the “know”.

  175. Sandman says:

    Litew8, I agree with you that many of our Politicians have some real skeletons in the closet. Many of these people rise to power with some questionable history behind them and their masters can manipulate them by holding their dirty little secrets as a sort of ransom. I think that the Jeff Gannon story was a warning shot to Bush to tell him to stay inline with the big plan…That story SHOULD have dwarfed the Monica story by a long shot…How is it that a gay porn and prostitution queen like Jeff Gannon can make dozens of late night visits to the White House and the Secret Service had no clue who he was? How did he get so many press credentials when he was not even associated with a real news agency? (Scott McClellen stated that there is no way that all press people can be screened…That lie alone should raise some questions)
    I always look for a compromised Politician when they seem overly religious, zealous about stopping specific crimes, like child abuse (remember Mark Foley) or have inconsistant political views (like claiming to be conservative and pushing for open borders and big Government).
    I wish the huge curtain of lies would be lifted one day to expose all these creepy “Leaders” who are running the show. They have gotten away with too much for too long. Karl Rove, Lindsay Graham, Hillary and many others badly need to be exposed in public. I don’t think too many of our Washington leaders are moral or even normal, that is why they are in power.

  176. jo says:

    you’re right Sandman,


    it is possible that it was the itailian mafia that exposed spitizer, if it wasn’t done for political reasons within the system, because he indicted 70-80 members recently. i believe the indictments might just be tied in with removing “problems” that might be in the way of”new world order” program. the timing it right.

  177. jo says:

    the only president that i can’t find to be a womanizer or at lease had a girlfriend is jimmy carter and even he admitted to “lusting in his heart”. most of these men marry for political purposes . most of them have really dark sides to their personalities. we want to believe that these people are wonderful human beings that only desire to protect us and our country, contrary to the facts. we have our fanasies , and they enforce them with their words and political jargon, but their actions show that protecting us and our country, if it exist is but a byproduct of the real business that they are about. the last president that was truly of the people was roosevelt, and he was willing to put it on the line for that purpose. jfk ? i believe that he might have been killed because he refused to go along with the program, but i don’t know enough to say for sure…..need to do more research at some point in time.
    either we are hypocrates or idiots to be surprised when these things “come out”
    i am morally outraged by what they are doing to us, not who they sleep with. about that i couldn’t care less because i understand that all of that comes with the power and to garner such power their garments are not clean. but it is the system and it is human nature and who they sleep with or whatever freaky stuff they do is between them and their wives.

  178. HellDogger says:

    Yeah Angel #167 Thesedays most folks have completely lost sight of what true conservatism & true liberalism is. True liberalism isn’t this twisted neo-Bolshivism of the Democrat party. And there is absolutlely nothing conservative about free trade, NAU, NWO, open borders, etc. those are all left wing globalist ideas. T. Roosevelt, A. Lincoln & yes even R. Reagan would roll over in their graves about that crap. But Juan McAmnesty proudly proclaimed “I am THE FREETRADE candidate. Newbes think there is something conservative about goin on & on with this deal in Iraq. WRONG! “Walk soft & carry a big stick” is conservative. In other words kick their ass, take their gas and come home.
    A. Lincoln- “If we buy the railroad from England, we’ll have the railroad, but England will have the money.”
    T. Roosevelt- “Immigrants coming to America should be Americans first.”
    R. Reagan- “Trust, but varify.”

  179. jo says:



    ?Walk soft & carry a big stick? is conservative. In other words kick their ass, take their gas and come home.

    why is it ok for the white man to steal and kill for what belongs to others and become outraged when those that they have wronged fight back? to me it would be the thief/murderer that is the terriorst and without honor. if that is the political definition of conservative i hope that we are never saddled with another. you know,those same conservatives are surely the ones who say “screw the people, take their shit and if they don’t fall in line ,kill them.

    if you ain’t rich, not an elitist then they are not for you nor do they consider you anything more then a piece of crap. they may look like you, but believe me, they know you are not one of them. and as you are blogging your discontent with what is happening to you ,yours and our country it is obvious that they do not represent you. come on, while it appears to be human nature to want to associated with those in power, you are not wanted by them and they will never embrace you.

  180. jo says:

    as far as r. reagan,

    a lot of this stuff went down on his watch, granted he may not have really been aware, having alziemer’s and all, but his administration was full of traitors. IMO!

  181. BEADALONG says:

    I also thought with Reagan that he threw the mentally ill out on the streets, we had a deficit that spiraled out of control with him and we had those lovely “Trickle Down” economics. I thought he also started a lot of deregulation of the industries & he did sign the 1986 Amnesty Bill.

    Now, not just to blast Reagan, I wasn’t overly pleased with him at all, but then again, look at Jimmy Carter’s economic disaster and Clinton (while the economy seemed to do good), he passed NAFTA (paving the way for the NAU), GATT & the WHO. He also signed away the Glass-Steagall Act which was a protection against another major depression.

    I might be dead wrong here (just a theory of mine), but now I wonder what his motives truly were when he said to “Tear Down That Wall.” …Was it to bring in the Eastern Bloc for cheaper labor and to get the European Union going?

  182. litew8 says:

    Sandman said: I think that the Jeff Gannon story was a warning shot to Bush to tell him to stay inline with the big plan?That story SHOULD have dwarfed the Monica story by a long shot?How is it that a gay porn and prostitution queen like Jeff Gannon can make dozens of late night visits to the White House and the Secret Service had no clue who he was? How did he get so many press credentials when he was not even associated with a real news agency? (Scott McClellen stated that there is no way that all press people can be screened?That lie alone should raise some questions)

    I always look for a compromised Politician when they seem overly religious, zealous about stopping specific crimes, like child abuse (remember Mark Foley) or have inconsistant political views (like claiming to be conservative and pushing for open borders and big Government).

    Gay porn prostitution queen going to the WHouse? What!? I don’t ever remember hearing about that story. Mark Foley happened not to long ago - and unless I’m mistaken, he still has his job. Yea, it’s obvious that the people being placed are not represenatives of the public.

    The Spitzer ordeal - I figured it was connected with the Spanish mafia or Mexican mafia - and they framed the guy easily. Could have been happening over the course of many years. The thing that makes me think that - the girl was of Spanish or Mexican decent and he attempted to blatantly grant illegal aliens something they are not entitled to. Notice how the MSM was “HUSH” “HUSH” about how HillBilly once supported his push. Perhaps it was the U?N that is behind it all.

  183. Eddie B. says:

    Spitzer pissed off too many CFR cronies going after Wall Street gangsters. I doubt the Mexican mafia had anything to do with this. This one was on the bankers. That is where the real power is.

    I bet he was a really easy mark.

  184. jo says:

    anyone want to throw in the russian mafia or the jewish mafia going…going…gone!

  185. jo says:

    didn’t forget the black mafia, but i think their business as been out sourced(giggle)

  186. Sandman says:

    Litew8, That story showed up 4 or 5 years ago and the media was all over it for a few days. The whole story then became quickly buried but not forgotten. There are pix of Boosh kissing Gannon on the head during a press briefing too. At that time, Gannon had to go into damgae control and he showed up on “Real Time w/ Bill Maher”, CNN, and many other MSM outlets to cool down the story. Just go to Youtube and watch all the videos…Or better yet, Google Jeff Gannon. This is not a conspiracy theory!

  187. Sandman says:

    Here’s a take on the Gannon story…

  188. Jimmy says:


  189. seven_staarten says:

    “while it appears to be human nature to want to associated with those in power, you are not wanted by them and they will never embrace you . . . .”

    = brokeass republican grandpappy’s dilemma.


  190. HellDogger says:

    Hey Jo, sorry. Didn’t mean ruffle your feathers. But the word is not “white man”. It’s American, and the philosophy that aggrivates you so was called “Manifest Destiny”. Basically what it said was that civilized people should rule uncivilized people for the sake of peace and prosperity for the world. The Bushintons & the Clintushes got it ass backwards.
    As for R. Reagan. It’s too bad he didn’t make you happy. He was probably too busy ending Russian Communism, building the economy through a simpler tax code and less taxes, & bringing peace to the world through a strong American military. That’s all he promised the people he would do in order to get elected and that is what he did. He pissed a lot of pro-commies off in the process. Oh well! Unfortunately his greatest political adverssary and his two sons, Bill & George have successfully destroyed everthing he did. Maybe you weren’t paying taxesat the time and can’t remember.

  191. BEADALONG says:

    Oh we were paying taxes all right. We didn’t get a simpler tax code and we didn’t get less taxes. (trickle-down economics did not work for us) and we weren’t wealthy. I was a stay-at-home mother at the time and my hubby was working in the assembly room and going to school at night. I started going to work shortly afterwards.

    I’m not pro-commie and it is indeed a very good thing that he ended Russian Communism.

    However, I question these things and why he would do these things. They were harmful.

    He did sign the 1986 Amnesty Bill. {What was he thinking?}……He did throw the mentally ill out on the streets. He did start this deregulation of the industries. He did say to “Tear down that wall” but I question the motive behind that now. I do question him regarding these things and…… you are certainly very correct about Clinton and both Georges and these characters were very ruinous to us!

    At one time, I thought Clinton was the best thing since sliced cheese, but as time and knowledge accumulated, that admiration went right down the toilet when his treason was revealed.

  192. litew8 says:

    jo said:
    anyone want to throw in the russian mafia or the jewish mafia going?going?gone! lol!


    Hey everyone, what do you think about my new nickname for Hillary? (HillBilly)

  193. BEADALONG says:

    HillBilly will work pretty good Jo!

  194. Sandman says:

    Ron Paul video+ old school Rush tune…

  195. BEADALONG says:

    Great video Sandman.

  196. BEADALONG says:

    Here’s a very unkind article by a “Business Writer,” EMILY FREDRIX (also disparaged truck drivers as sloths with unhealthy habits)—She knows damn well the state of our economy and the reasons why—BUT—she won’t address those and call for fix those problems–nope, Instead she’d rather whine about grown children (even middle-aged) moving back in with their parents.—–I’m sure these grown children didn’t have this future in mind—-rather I’m sure they had the American Dream of being a homeowner and having a well-paying job and the trappings that go along with that.

    ARTICLE-by Emily Fredrix


    By EMILY FREDRIX, AP Business Writer
    1 hour, 57 minutes ago

    MILWAUKEE - After being laid off from her job as an events planner at an upscale resort, Jo Ann Bauer struggled financially. She worked at several lower-paying jobs, relocated to a new city and even declared bankruptcy.

    Then in December, she finally accepted her parents’ invitation to move into their home ? at age 52. “I’m back living in the bedroom that I grew up in,” she said.

    Taking shelter with parents isn’t uncommon for young people in their 20s, especially when the job market is poor. But now the slumping economy and the credit crunch are forcing some children to do so later in life ? even in middle age.

    Financial planners report receiving many calls from parents seeking advice about taking in their grown children following divorces and layoffs.

    Kim Foss Erickson, a financial planner in Roseville, Calif., north of Sacramento, said she has never seen older children, even those in their 50s, depending so much on their parents as in the last six months.

    “This is not like, ‘OK, my son just graduated from college and needs to move back in’ type of thing,” she said. “These are 40- and 50-year-old children of my clients that they’re helping out.”

    Parents “jeopardize their financial freedom by continuing to subsidize their children,” said Karin Maloney Stifler, a financial planner in Hudson, Ohio, and a board member of the Financial Planning Association. “We have a hard time saying no as a culture to our children, and they keep asking for more.”

    Bauer’s parents won’t take rent money or let her help much with groceries. She’s trying to save several hundred dollars a month for a house while working as a meetings coordinator.

    Bauer would prefer to live on her own, but without her parents’ help would “probably be renting again and trying to stick minimal money in the bank,” she said.

    Shirley Smith, 80, said she and her husband didn’t hesitate when they invited Bauer to return to their home in Eden, Wis. Buying groceries for another person isn’t stretching her budget too much, she said.

    “I’ve got three kids and any of them can come home if they want,” she said.

    But plenty of well-meaning parents must delay retirement or scale back their dreams because they have to help their children, Stifler said.

    Some of Erickson’s clients are giving as much as $50,000 at a time to their kids, many of whom have overextended themselves with big houses or lavish lifestyles. And the sliding economy might threaten their jobs.

    Parents feel guilty if they don’t offer help, but she warns them to be careful with their savings.

    “I almost have to act like a financial therapist if you will,” she said. “‘Here is the line I’m drawing for you. That’s fine. You can do up to this point, but at this point, now you’re starting to erode your own wealth.’”

    Anna Maggiore, 27, lost her job as a publicist in Los Angeles about three years ago and moved into her parents’ house in Los Alamos, N.M.

    She tried to find jobs, but nothing stuck, so she enrolled full-time at the College of Santa Fe to finish her bachelor’s degree in business.

    She figures her parents spend about $1,000 a month on her, including a car payment, car and health insurance, school and other costs. Her father is a retired nuclear physicist and her mother, a guidance counselor, will retire this spring. Now Maggiore is looking for work so she can supplement their income.

    “It’s kind of hitting me finally that I need to get out there and find a job,” she said. “Even if it’s just part-time just to help out however I can.”

    A new survey by the retiree-advocacy group AARP found that one-fourth of Generation Xers, those 28 to 39 years old, receive financial help from family and friends.

    The online survey of nearly 1,800 people ages 19 to 39 also found 57 percent believed they were “financially independent.” But in a separate question, 33 percent said they received financial support from family and friends.

    Bauer was caught by surprise when her job at a resort in Kohler, Wis., was cut four years ago, one year after she got divorced. The single mother bounced around to several lesser-paying jobs, declared bankruptcy and even moved 60 miles south to Milwaukee.

    Her daughter, now 12, moved in with Bauer’s ex-husband near her hometown.

    Bauer decided to move to be closer to her and in December she found a job with the Experimental Aircraft Association in nearby Oshkosh. She tried to buy a house but needed 5 percent down. She only had 2 percent. She’s now saving for a down payment and hopes to have it as early as June.

    Bauer said she gets along well with her parents and knows she’ll never get to spend so much time with them again. But it hurts her ego to live at home.

    “I’ve had people say to me, ‘Oh God, I could never do that,’” she said. “But you take humble steps in order to move forward.”

  197. BEADALONG says:


    LAST HOPE IN A WEAK ECONOMY ? Mom and Dad By EMILY FREDRIX, AP Business Writer 1 hour, 57 minutes ago

    MILWAUKEE - After being laid off from her job as an events planner at an upscale resort, Jo Ann Bauer struggled financially. She worked at several lower-paying jobs, relocated to a new city and even declared bankruptcy.

    Then in December, she finally accepted her parents’ invitation to move into
    their home ? at age 52. “I’m back living in the bedroom that I grew up in,” she

    Taking shelter with parents isn’t uncommon for young people in their 20s,
    especially when the job market is poor. But now the slumping economy and the
    credit crunch are forcing some children to do so later in life ? even in middle

    Financial planners report receiving many calls from parents seeking advice about
    taking in their grown children following divorces and layoffs.

    Kim Foss Erickson, a financial planner in Roseville, Calif., north of
    Sacramento, said she has never seen older children, even those in their 50s,
    depending so much on their parents as in the last six months.

    “This is not like, ‘OK, my son just graduated from college and needs to move
    back in’ type of thing,” she said. “These are 40- and 50-year-old children of my
    clients that they’re helping out.”

    Parents “jeopardize their financial freedom by continuing to subsidize their
    children,” said Karin Maloney Stifler, a financial planner in Hudson, Ohio, and
    a board member of the Financial Planning Association. “We have a hard time
    saying no as a culture to our children, and they keep asking for more.”

    Bauer’s parents won’t take rent money or let her help much with groceries. She’s trying to save several hundred dollars a month for a house while working as a meetings coordinator.

    Bauer would prefer to live on her own, but without her parents’ help would
    “probably be renting again and trying to stick minimal money in the bank,” she

    Shirley Smith, 80, said she and her husband didn’t hesitate when they invited
    Bauer to return to their home in Eden, Wis. Buying groceries for another person
    isn’t stretching her budget too much, she said.

    “I’ve got three kids and any of them can come home if they want,” she said.
    But plenty of well-meaning parents must delay retirement or scale back their
    dreams because they have to help their children, Stifler said.

    Some of Erickson’s clients are giving as much as $50,000 at a time to their
    kids, many of whom have overextended themselves with big houses or lavish
    lifestyles. And the sliding economy might threaten their jobs.

    Parents feel guilty if they don’t offer help, but she warns them to be careful
    with their savings.

    “I almost have to act like a financial therapist if you will,” she said. “‘Here
    is the line I’m drawing for you. That’s fine. You can do up to this point, but
    at this point, now you’re starting to erode your own wealth.’”

    Anna Maggiore, 27, lost her job as a publicist in Los Angeles about three years
    ago and moved into her parents’ house in Los Alamos, N.M.

    She tried to find jobs, but nothing stuck, so she enrolled full-time at the
    College of Santa Fe to finish her bachelor’s degree in business.

    She figures her parents spend about $1,000 a month on her, including a car
    payment, car and health insurance, school and other costs. Her father is a
    retired nuclear physicist and her mother, a guidance counselor, will retire this
    spring. Now Maggiore is looking for work so she can supplement their income.
    “It’s kind of hitting me finally that I need to get out there and find a job,”
    she said. “Even if it’s just part-time just to help out however I can.”

    A new survey by the retiree-advocacy group AARP found that one-fourth of
    Generation Xers, those 28 to 39 years old, receive financial help from family
    and friends.

    The online survey of nearly 1,800 people ages 19 to 39 also found 57 percent
    believed they were “financially independent.” But in a separate question, 33
    percent said they received financial support from family and friends.

    Bauer was caught by surprise when her job at a resort in Kohler, Wis., was cut
    four years ago, one year after she got divorced. The single mother bounced
    around to several lesser-paying jobs, declared bankruptcy and even moved 60
    miles south to Milwaukee.

    Her daughter, now 12, moved in with Bauer’s ex-husband near her hometown.
    Bauer decided to move to be closer to her and in December she found a job with
    the Experimental Aircraft Association in nearby Oshkosh. She tried to buy a
    house but needed 5 percent down. She only had 2 percent. She’s now saving for a down payment and hopes to have it as early as June.

    Bauer said she gets along well with her parents and knows she’ll never get to
    spend so much time with them again. But it hurts her ego to live at home.
    “I’ve had people say to me, ‘Oh God, I could never do that,’” she said. “But you
    take humble steps in order to move forward.”

  198. BEADALONG says:

    Hmm, why is this above article in moderation? There’s no dirty words.

    THis is an article by a so-called “business writer”, EMILY FREDRIX who is complaining that middle-aged children are moving back in with their parents.

    Well, if it doesn’t go through, here’s the article title:


    She also wrote an article about truck drivers (describing them in so many words as slothful and with unhealthy habits).

    She claims she is a “business writer,” but she doesn’t once address or challenge what the true cause of all these problems are.

  199. the marlboro man says:

    Well we been warned we just didn,t listen its all comming to pass !!I was just looking around today and found a site about silver most dealers are sold out and say it,ll be 45 to 60 days before they have anymore to sale,if then ???The big D is on the way stock up on food ! Good luck !

  200. the marlboro man says:

    Well we been warned we just didn,t listen its all comming to pass !!I was just looking around today and found a site about silver most dealers are sold out and say it,ll be 45 to 60 days before they have anymore to sale,if then ???The big D is on the way stock up on food ! Good luck !

  201. BEADALONG says:

    Why was my aritcle knocked off by EMILY FREDERIX? And the following statement? There were no dirty words in it

    Anyway she claims she’s a business writer but does nothing to address the true causes of why people are having economic problems in the first place.


    She’s complaining that middle-aged children are moving back in with their parents.

    I’m quite sure that these people wanted and were pursuing the “American Dream.” I’m sure they didn’t envision their future as living with their parents again, especially being middle aged. That’s got to be the height of embarrassment (in most cases).

    EMILY FREDRIX also wrote a disparaging article on truck drivers (essentially painting them) as slothful and with unhealthy habits.

  202. BEADALONG says:

    Low-cost ways to conserve water at home
    By Kendra Tupper Posted Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:15am PDT

    “When the well’s dry, we know the worth of water.”

    -Benjamin Franklin

    If you live in an area where water shortages are not an issue, consider yourself lucky. Nearly 450 million people in 29 countries face severe water shortages. Predictions indicate that within 5 years, at least 36 U.S. states will face water shortages due to a combination of rising temperatures, drought, population growth, and waste.

    But there is hope — research has shown that residential water use could be reduced by as much as 50 percent through efficiency. Here are a few simple, low-cost suggestions for reducing your family’s water consumption.

    Reduce water use from showers and faucets
    Although it’s often the smallest room in the house, the bathroom is where 75 percent of indoor household water consumption occurs. Seem impossible? Consider this: The average 6-minute shower uses about 20 gallons of water! Reduce this amount with the following tips:

    No cost: Limit shower time to 5 minutes or less.
    Less than $10: Install an on/off valve between the shower arm and showerhead. This temporarily shuts off the flow while maintaining the temperature, and can be a useful water-saver while soaping up or shaving.
    $10-$50: Install a low-flow (less than 2 gallons per minute) showerhead. Previous low-flow showerheads sacrificed water pressure for efficiency, but now there are many options (GAIAM and Delta make two of my favorites) that don’t simulate a dripping faucet.
    $20-$50: Insulate all accessible hot-water pipes, especially those within 3 feet of the water heater. You’ll get hot water faster, avoid wasting H2O while it heats up, and save energy in the process.
    Finally, fit all household faucets with low-flow aerators (less than two gallons per minute). This is the best in-home water conservation method, and it’s also the cheapest.

    Toilets are the enemy
    Each day, the U.S. uses 5.8 billion gallons of fresh water to flush waste. If you’re in the market for a new porcelain throne, check out options with either a very low (less than 1.6) gallon per flush (gpf) rating, or dual flush controls.

    This new technology provides 2 buttons for flushing: one at 1.6 gpf for solid waste, and another at only 0.8 gpf for liquids. These double-duty flushers can reduce water usage by up to 67 percent compared with traditional toilets.

    Feeling even earthier? Go for a waterless composting toilet and be the envy of all your neighbors!

    And if you haven’t budgeted for a new toilet, try these quick fixes:

    Check for leaks: Put a little food coloring in your toilet tank. If the color begins to appear in the bowl within 30 minutes, you have a leak that should be repaired. Most replacement parts are inexpensive and easy to install.
    Displace water: Most older toilets don’t require nearly as much water as they use (3.5-5 gallons) to flush properly. To “trick” your toilet into using less water, place a half-gallon plastic bottle inside your toilet tank to displace water volume. (Be sure at least 2.5 gallons of water remain in the tank so it will flush properly.) Ideally, weigh down the bottle with sand or pebbles so it doesn’t interfere with the tank mechanisms. This simple retrofit could save a three-person family 225 gallons of water per month! Not a do-it-yourselfer? For only a few dollars, you can purchase a prepared toilet bag designed to displace 0.8 gallons of water with every flush.
    Minimize appliance water consumption
    Outside the bathroom, most water is used to wash clothes and dishes. Rather than wearing dirty clothes and using paper plates, keep these tips in mind while tackling daily chores:

    Fully loaded: Dishwashers and clothes washers should be operated when full for optimum water conservation. If you must wash partial loads, adjust the water levels as appropriate.
    The dishwasher is your friend: Even old-school dishwashers don’t use as much water per dish as hand-washing. Newer, more efficient dishwashers use only 1/6 of the water used during hand-washing, and save 230 hours of yourtime each year.
    Scrape, don’t rinse: Pre-rinsing dishes before loading the dishwasher is unnecessary. Scrape off food and then trust that bad boy to do its job.
    Pass on permanent press: Avoid the permanent press cycle when washing clothes, which uses an additional 5 gallons for the extra rinse.
    Upgrade your equipment: Consider buying a water-saving front-loading clothes washer, or a top-loading one with no central agitator. Check ENERGY STAR for ideas and ratings.
    Kendra Tupper is a consultant with the Energy & Resources Team at Rocky Mountain Institute.

  203. BEADALONG says:

    Okay, the above article on: LOW-COST WAYS TO CONSERVE WATER AT HOME-by KENDRA TUPPER came through.

    Anyway my COMMENT TO THIS: Yes, we should indeed to our share to conserve.

    PROBLEM: Why add to the problem by bringing in continued unlimited population though immigration, (both legal and illegal)?…How does this solve anything?

    Isn’t this counterproductive? Doesn’t this cancel out any effects of conservation?

  204. BEADALONG says:

    Oh well, maybe Word Press is acting a little screwy right now or my articles were too long, who knows?

    #199 & 200. Yea, I think it’s crazy with the silver prices too, Marlboro Man. I did stock up on some food, but due to my illness, I could never save much money or invest and right now I’m in between jobs.

    I hope we’re dead wrong about having another great depression, but the signs certainly look like they’re pointing out that way.

    After all, besides the Subprime seeming to be the final nail in our coffin, none of the other ecnoomic issues were ever properly dealt with like the:
    1. Unstainable never-ending wars (including the Bogus “War on Terra.”
    2. ENDING ALL tax breaks to offshoring, outsourcing, all manner of H1B

  205. BEADALONG says:

    Oops-pushed the wrong button! I hate that.

    2. visas and all illegal aliens.
    3. ENDING all funding/schooling/births/WIC etc benefits and jobs of illegal aliens.
    4. Tax the crap out of that REMITTENCE money (to include banks/wiring services).
    5. END the Tax-exempt status of any: Church, foundation, institution who promotes illegal aliens.
    6a. Go after any lawyers/legal services provided FREE to illegal aliens.
    6b. This should also apply to the: Chambers of Commerces, economists & Think Tanks who promote illegal aliens as well.
    7. PUNISH the Employers who hire illegal aliens (they have NO loyalty to this nation).
    8. Abolish the IRS.

    With the food issue, I also have 2 cats, so I bought a bit extra for them too.

    I also considered things we don’t really think about such as: toilet paper, shoe laces, glasses, toothbrushes/toothpaste, deoderant, soap (both laundry/bath), baking powder (large bags-they can be used for cleaning, washing clothes and tooth-brushing purposes) and plenty of water which might get shut off.

  206. Eddie B. says:

    Regarding the water issue… invetigate what KBR/Balckwater did in South America. Pure gangsterism. They wanted to tax the indians on collecting rain water. No wonder the rest of the world hates America.

    And we are next. They don’t give two cents for us. We are fodder.

  207. BEADALONG says:

    Hmm, here was an article on Jeff Rense about Comcast


    Published on Wednesday, March 19, 2008.

    Source: New Tee Vee

    If you have some tinfoil handy, now might be a good time to fashion a hat. At the Digital Living Room conference today, Gerard Kunkel, Comcast?s senior VP of user experience, told me the cable company is experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who?s in your living room.
    The idea being that if you turn on your cable box, it recognizes you and pulls up shows already in your profile or makes recommendations. If parents are watching TV with their children, for example, parental controls could appear to block certain content from appearing on the screen. Kunkel also said this type of monitoring is the ?holy grail? because it could help serve up specifically tailored ads. Yikes.

    Kunkel said the system wouldn?t be based on facial recognition, so there wouldn?t be a picture of you on file (we hope). Instead, it would distinguish between different members of your household by recognizing body forms. He stressed that the system is still in the experimental phase, that there hasn?t been consumer testing, and that any rollout ?must add value? to the viewing experience beyond serving ads.

    Perhaps I?ve seen Enemy of the State too many times, or perhaps I?m just naive about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can?t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept-secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with the Kardashians?

    Kunkel also spoke on camera with me about fixing bad Comcast user experiences, the ongoing BitTorrent battle and VOD. But he mostly towed the corporate line on these issues (the monitoring your living room came up after my camera was put away).

  208. BEADALONG says:


    Los Angeles - California, home to 1 in 9 American schoolchildren, is on the brink of what may be the biggest public education crisis in state history. Facing a $16 billion state budget shortfall, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has proposed $4.8 billion in school-funding cuts, or 10 percent of education spending.

    In the past week, over 20,000 preliminary pink slips were sent by school districts to teachers and administrators state wide, according to the California Teachers Association. The association estimates another 87,000 (of a total 350,000 public school teachers) could come if Governor Schwarzenegger holds to his budget cut request.

    Some say the request is a cry of “wolf” intended to draw public attention and force stalemated politicians to reconsider the cuts ? or raise taxes. Others say fiscal reality will push the cuts through as presented.

    Meanwhile, school districts and parents are in paroxysms over the thousands of teacher layoffs, the projected loss of librarians, nurses, counselors, and arts personnel; and the need to close schools, increase class sizes, and postpone buying new books.

    “This is a story that carries important lessons for how American states fund their public education,” says Michael Kirst, professor emeritus of education and business administration at Stanford University in Palo Alto. California’s Proposition 13 of 1978, which capped property taxes, made districts more dependent on state aid for education. The state, he says “has seen its public schools suffer ever since.”

    “Most states leave the cushion of allowing local government to raise property taxes when state school revenues don’t come through. This is a giant case study that they might want to keep that option or end up like California.”

    There are other problems with the state’s governance that have cost education in budget battles going back decades, Dr. Kirst and others say. State revenues are derived largely from capital-gains taxes and progressive income tax, a combination that causes wild swings in revenue. “[So] when times are good they are very good and when bad they are painful,” says Kirst.

    And because the state budget requires a two-thirds majority to pass, a handful of politicians can block it. “With the state GOP refusing to approve anything with revenue tied to it and Democrats unwilling to pass education cuts, it’s a recipe for this year’s stalemate,” says Kevin Gordon, president of School Innovations and Advocacy, the state’s largest lobbying firm for public schools.

    This boom/bust cycle has wreaked havoc on California public education. From 1980 to 2000, the state dropped from No. 1 on several indicators ? per pupil spending, test scores, and teachers’ salaries ? to below 47. When boom times came ? 1999 taxes on capital gains brought $24 billion to the state treasury ? schools spent the windfall immediately to make up for past debt, without saving for rainy days to come.

    The result has been a pattern of teacher shortages, with many of the best teachers fleeing the state seeking stability, better conditions, and higher salaries. This adds to the state’s other problems: 25 percent of students are “English learners,” who need to be taught in special classes, and the number of schools serving low-income students is well above the national average.

    Experts say teacher shortages could occur again in the current situation, even if the proposed budget cuts don’t make it through. That’s because state law mandates that school districts notify next fall’s laid-off teachers by March 15, and by May 15 if such notices are to be rescinded. Because most state budgets here are not signed until August, the teachers who have been laid off may have already left for greener pastures. “By fall, the state may have changed its mind about those teachers it just gave pink slips to, but by then it could be too late,” says Scott Plotkin, president of the California School Boards Association.

  209. BEADALONG says:

    part B

    Whatever happens, it is clear that teachers, district officials, and parents are anxious. San Diego County school districts are slashing $360 million partly by expanding classrooms at the earliest grades of elementary school, usually capped at 20 students. Nurses and librarians will be shared among schools.

    Los Angeles Unified, the second-largest district in the US, is also anticipating $460 million in cuts by killing off elective courses, some sports programs, and firing art teachers, counselors, and personnel from cafeterias to gymnasiums.

    “Already the bathrooms stink, the roof is leaking, and we never have enough textbooks. Now the school is going to take away key teachers and personnel,” says Fidel Garcia, father of two at Manchester Ave. Elementary School in downtown L.A. “This can’t be right.”

    To fight the cuts, the CTA has launched a statewide PR campaign, complete with placard protests and letters, targeting key legislators. Experts say a concerted public outcry is necessary. “If the public doesn’t get a sense of what these deep cuts mean ? [by seeing that] your favorite teacher won’t be at school next year or new textbooks might not be purchased ? then there will be no political traction to get this reversed,” says Mr. Gordon.

    Even so, some damage has already been done. California will need thousands of teachers in the next decade. Says David Sanchez, president of the CTA: “Why would any good teacher want to come here if they have to wonder what each year’s budget is going to bring?”

  210. BEADALONG says:

    In the articles (both parts) in #208-309, not once have I heard anything about illegal aliens contributing to this problem……BUT It did mention 25% English learners.

    RE: English learners, bill the parents of every child who needs to be taught English! (that should at least help make a dent as well as eliminating ALL illegal aliens from our schools).

    And with the list I mention a lot and have sent a few times, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what must be done to help fix the budget, but these morons refuse to do it! I’ve lost so much respect for these turkeys running our state government. What an embarrassment they are to me as well as a complete let down.

  211. jo says:



    nice job laying it out. some people really are struggling with the fact that they are not a part of the “ruling class”,not even around the edges, and that they are no longer getting even the crumbs that fall from that table, but they still waste time defending the indefensible. it is quite a distance from the dinning room to the outhouse and in case someone hasn’t noticed, there is a distinctly different odor.

  212. jo says:



    thanks for that demonstration of twisted uninformed thinking ,kinda like show and tell, but my question was about those “in power”. it was really posed as a rhetorical question.

  213. Jimmy says:

    Is anybody there?

  214. Angel says:

    Do you think the “hill” regrets using that particular clip?

    I think Americans have had their fill of fearmongering from the Bush admin., so it was unwise for her to tap into Bush tactics.

  215. Angel says:

    I heard something on the news last night about illegals self deporting and a 60% decrease in aliens crossing the border.

  216. Angel says:

    Hmmm …. is this for real or another ploy??

  217. Sandman says:

    #213 Jimi…That was quite a video! The Elite want us to focus on a right-left political paradigm while they carry out their agenda. Because they own the media the banks, our entire political structure and almost everything else, the game is rigged fully against us. Being anti-globalist is being equated to being racist or anarchistic. OUR advantage is that they are a very small number of people and if the sheeple ever wake up, there will be hell to pay!

  218. Sandman says:

    Beadalong, you have been on fire lately with those articles! The one about 40 and 50 year olds moving back home with the parents is for real. I know some people who did that, they just can’t make it on their own anymore (mostly from bad decisions throughout life) but still it is a sign of the times we are living.

  219. Sandman says:

    Jimi, th is a follow-up video to your last post…

  220. Sandman says:

  221. Sandman says:

  222. the marlboro man says:

    My god dose anyone in DC and our congress givea shit about the working people anymore or do they know something we don,t ??? lIKE THE DOLLAR CALAPES and we just don,t know it yet ??Congress held a closed session before running home/why ??Rumor that there was talk of how to hide members of congress from the public ??And marshal law was going to happen very soon,that they had to have a place to hide from public?? I can,t remeber where I found this but it makes sence // PALOsi in INDIA worried about CHINA ,whats with that when here at home you got people living in tents in her distrct,who just lost there homes? REAL SMART

  223. BEADALONG says:

    Thanks Sandman and Jo. Once in a while, I’m on a roll.

    And I’ve sent that list several times to our politicians. AND all they have to do is enforce some laws already on the books as well and it would reduce the fiscal impact quite a bit and If there is a hell, I hope the polliticians will be sent to it.

    #206. That’s just insane with water Eddie B. Even taxing for collection of rain water? That’s sheer greed on the part of our corporations.

  224. Sandman says:

    I just got a notice that there will be another anti-Trans Texas Corridor rally in Austin on April 5th (Saturday) The one last year was a success because so many people showed up. If there are any Texans or out of State Watchdogs who will be here during that time PLEASE come. The more people that show up the more effective this march will be. The website for more info is:;Itemid=1

  225. jo says:

    HEY Melody,

    where are you. i miss your insightfulness and i really enjoy watching you grow.

    i hope you are well and are just so busy working and making good money on a new job. give us a shout out to let us know you are ok.

  226. melody says:

    I’m ok. I’m just taking a break from thinking about invaders. I just want to forget they exist for a few days or so. LOL.

    Just stopped by to say hello to everybody.

  227. BEADALONG says:

    #224. I hope you’re successful over there in Austin, Sandman.

    #226. Hi Melody, I know what you mean. Sometimes, it does seem like it gets overwhelming and then I’m trying to constantly petitician my congress-people about offshoring, outsourcing, visas, insourcing and corporate responsibility, stopping the NAU and the wars…….. -AND apparently NIGHTLINE with TERRY MORAN did another hit piece the other day on MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) and William Rea in Texas who is treating it.

    Terry Moran also discussed MCS with David Kahn, an allergist/immunologist and so their conclusion is (drum roll, yet again):
    MCS is psychological!

    MY TAKE: Not once did they take up the issues of missing or low enzymes such as PON 1, paraoxenase and/or cholinesterace, the CNS problems and the blood brain barrier (which might not be intact or is missing), thefore possibly accounting for why we usually have such a heightened sense of smell (often smelling things) that nobody else can.

    The people that also claim this is psychological often don’t have any training and/or do not carry the license for such, so why do they keep making a snap judgment on this? True, somebody with MCS might have psychiatric issues but so can anyone else with other medical issues.

    So in between the drug/pesticide/lawn care companies (such as Monsanto/Dow-think of Agent Orange here); Terry Moran, John Stossel, Dean Edell, Stephen Barrett, Ronald Gotts, Elizabeth Whelan, Steven Malloy, RISE, Michael Fumento, Elaine Showalter and the army of lobbyists to Washington, who’s going to listen to us?—we (of whom most of us) have a much lower health threshold along with the drastically reduced paycheck and loss of lifestyle and reduction of friends and often loss of support from family members.

    And because of this, we also have a very hard time having any Worker’s Comp, etc to listen us and help us either.

    So…….these guys are laughing all the way to the bank and we’re just trying to survive.

  228. BEADALONG says:

    Speaking of cholinesterace (#227), I have a cat and was looking at a flea collar (out of curiosity as to the ingredients) in the pet store and in the fine print, it did mention that the flea collar could harmfully affect cholinesterace and this was on a cat collar.

  229. BEADALONG says:

    Boy, I was just watching The Amero (North American Currency) video as well as Bush thinking the NAU plan was “comical.”

    With the 1st video, the reporter treated these NAU/Amero ideas as a joke and the 2nd video, Bush thought it was “comical” and “amusing.”

    Reporter Malveau mentioned conspiracy theorists and then said all the leaders got quite a bit of a chuckle on this.

    And then the jelly beans were mentioned,….they think we’re all idiots, don’t they?

  230. jo says:


    Nah!…..they just don’t give a damm! they believe that they got it wrapped so tight that nothing can stop it. unfortunately i believe they are right.

    they’re laughing alright, because they can’t believe it is so easy and the goodies are just there “free for the taking”…..hell , i would be laughing too!

  231. BEADALONG says:

    Yea, you’re right Jo. It seems they figured out all the angles and not enough sheeple have woken up. I’ve sent god knows how many articles to my parents and my hubby doesn’t want to hear all my “political stuff” and neither do my relatives, so in my particular group, I feel like I’m the only one that can see the train wreck coming.

  232. Sandman says:

    Ron Paul was a guest on the Coast to Coast radio show on Tuesday, someone already posted the show on youtube. It is worth checking out!

  233. Mountain Man says:

    Heres a little info that was emailed to me.

    Now ….. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of all the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
    each year. http://tinyurlcom/zob7 7%20

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
    programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary
    school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal alie ns.

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
    Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages
    are caused by the illegal aliens.

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate
    that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In
    particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal
    aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:

    12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost
    of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

    14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million
    Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ‘.

    The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars a year .
    Are we THAT stupid???

  234. jo says:

    Mountain Man,

    good job!

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.…..dt.01.html

    and to think ,we let most of them off for their crimes. these dudes and dudettes must be really be time freaking monsters!

  235. jo says:


  236. Eddie B. says:

    Lou Dobbs had the director of “Border” on his show tonight. This is a powerful documentary that won a large number of indie film awards. Highly recommended.

  237. BEADALONG says:

    #232 Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out Sandman.

    #233. That’s a fantastic link, Mountain Man. I’ve sent that out to a few people (including politicians).—-I was hoping it would be a hint to them.

  238. NoYouCant says:

    Gee, I wonder who did the work BEFORE the “low skilled workers” aka slaves came?

    How would Britain cope if the Poles went home? It may seem unlikely but companies across the country are reporting that the Polish influx is coming to an end.

    Danny Sriskandarajah, policy director of think tank the Institute for Public Policy Research, says it’s something business and Government needs to think about.

    “That tap of Polish workers is going to run dry. And I fear that policymakers haven’t quite grasped the immense challenge that might bring because if the Poles don’t do the jobs, who will?”

    “Who will?” The people who did it before, but for more money, wages one can actually live on and even save from.

    jo: “they believe that they got it wrapped so tight that nothing can stop it. unfortunately i believe they are right.”

    It’s too big, a done deal. Millions of people all over the world are getting screwed. Even the illegal aliens, worldwide, are getting screwed. I wonder if the Flower Power Generation is running the show? Peace and love…wouldn’t it be great? Most people can’t even maintain that it their own families, lol. Yikes!

  239. BEADALONG says:

    Yea Litew8t, this sounds “strangely” like our own story over here, doesn’t it?

    Couple that with bringing in a religion and culture completely incompatible with the host country as well with a complicit/corrupt government who could care less about its people and consider them more or less garbage and we have a trainwreck waiting to occur. It’s just a matter of time when.

  240. BEADALONG says:


    Hmm, here’s another scam by the credit card companies….why our politicians are allowing this in light that these companies really pushed for Bankruptcy laws to be a lot less lenient for the average Joe is just another example of classic greed.

    When the credit card companies pushed for the Bankruptcy Laws, they should also have made accountable as well. For starters, they shouldn’t have been allowed to still continue to stuff our snailmail/email boxes with further offers.

    Also, there is CHRIST STINEBERT-Pres/CEO of American Financial Services Assoc. opposes tighter credit card regulation…so if he opposes tighter regulation, I guess he wants this scam continued as well.


    Fee harvesting is the latest ploy by credit card companies
    February 18, 2008

    People with damaged credit have a new bull’s-eye on their backs.

    The nation’s banks are doing mailings for MasterCards and Visas that are just awful. They’re offering cards with low credit limits of a few hundred dollars. The catch is that they charge fees to get the card that nearly equal the credit limit they’ve given you.

    This tactic has been called “fee harvesting” by the National Consumer Law Center. That’s because there’s a multitude of subtle fees that they load on. These can include an annual fee, a setup fee, a program fee and a participation fee.

    The New York Times reports that Capital One and CompuCredit are some of the worst offenders. Except for the annual fee, all of these other fees are completely bogus. You think they’re doing you a big favor by taking you on as a customer. But they eliminate all their risk by hitting you upfront with huge ridiculous fees.

    Clark thinks the practice is diabolical but pretty clever in a sad sort of way. So beware if you’re suddenly getting an offer for a card and nobody else has wanted you — it could be a fee harvesting ploy coming your way.

  241. BEADALONG says:

    Did anyone ever hear of the “DEAD PEASANT’S INSURANCE POLICY” by Corporations?


    The Basics
    Does your boss want you dead?

    ‘Dead peasants’ insurance pays your employer a secret, tax-free windfall when you die. Insurers have sold millions of policies to companies such as Dow Chemical.

    By Liz Pulliam Weston

    Right now, your company could have a life insurance policy on you that you know nothing about. When you die — perhaps years after you leave your employer — the tax-free proceeds from this policy wouldnt go to your family. The money would go to the company.

    Whats more, the company might use this policy to pay for retirement benefits and other perks not for you or your fellow workers, but for your companys top executives.

    Sound outrageous? Such corporate-owned life insurance is also big business:
    Companies pay a whopping $8 billion in premiums each year for such coverage, according to the American Council of Life Insurers, a trade group.

    The policies make up more than 20% of the all the life insurance sold each year.

    Companies expect to reap more than $9 billion in tax breaks from these policies over the next five years. The policies are treated as whole life policies. So, companies can borrow against the policies (though the IRS won’t let them write off the interest). And the death benefits are tax-free.
    Hundreds of companies — including Dow Chemical, Procter & Gamble, Wal-Mart, Walt Disney and Winn-Dixie — have purchased this insurance on more than 6 million rank-and-file workers.$100? $200? $300? You can’t save if you don’t shop around.

    These policies, nicknamed dead janitors or dead peasants insurance, soared in popularity after many states cleared the way for them in the 1980s. Congress recently tried to crack down on the practice, to the howls of the insurance industry — which earlier this year managed to derail reforms.

    The policies have generated lawsuits by survivors who got little or nothing when insured workers died. A couple of examples:
    Jane St. John had two children and was pregnant with a third when her husband, a butcher at a Winn-Dixie store, was killed in an auto accident. When the Killeen, Texas, woman called the company to ask about insurance, she said she was told about a $17,500 policy to which she was entitled. St. John said Winn-Dixie told her nothing about the $102,000 the company collected from a corporate-owned policy on his life. She found out about it this summer, eight years after his death, from a lawyer who researched court records. The idea that the company would secretly insure lives, and then not share the benefits with the families, “is sick,” she said. “That is creepy.”

    Mike Rice was a 48-year-old assistant manager when he died of a massive heart attack at the Wal-Mart store in Tilton, N.H. His widow, Vicki, became the lead plaintiff in a class-action lawsuit against the company after she discovered Wal-Mart collected $300,000 from a life insurance policy it owned on him. Vicki Rice believes job-related stress contributed to the heart attack and says it is totally immoral for Wal-Mart to profit from his death.
    In a lot of circumstances, the families dont get anything, said attorney Mike Myers of Houstons McClanahan & Clearman, which represents survivors suing companies over corporate-owned policies. The company tries its hardest to keep the policy a secret.

    Labor leaders and some lawmakers have denounced the policies as unjust and repulsive. The companies say profits from the policies can help offset the increased cost of employee benefits and enhance the businesses bottom lines.

    Corporate-owned life insurance actually comes in two flavors:

  242. BEADALONG says:



    Corporate-owned life insurance actually comes in two flavors:
    Executive or key person policies that insure the lives of top executives. This coverage has been around for decades and has a clear business purpose, since losing the expertise, knowledge and contacts of top managers can be financially devastating for companies.

    Broad-based or janitors policies that insure rank-and-file workers. Here the purpose is basically profit. The life insurance proceeds are tax-free. The policies have an investment component that allows companies to earn tax-deferred returns while the employee is still alive. And, of course, companies can take out tax-free loans on the policies. All these gains and income are used to fund operations, pay for executive compensation or boost other benefits.
    No one knows how many corporate-owned policies are issued on executives versus rank-and-file workers. Wal-Mart alone had taken out about 350,000 such policies between 1993 and 1996. Nestle USA had policies on 18,000 workers in 2002, The Wall Street Journal reported. Enron had $500 million in policies on workers.

    Sales of the policies came to a virtual standstill in September 2003, according to the insurer trade group ACLI, when the Senate Finance Committee approved legislation that would have taxed payouts made to companies if the employee had left more than a year earlier. That indicates that most policies arent being sold to protect companies financially against the loss of key current employees.

    Strong insurance industry protests led the powerful committee to reconsider its action. Further work on the issue has been postponed until 2004, and indications are that the senators are softening on the idea of greatly restricting the policies, said Jack Dolan, ACLI spokesman.

    Companies insist that janitors policies have a legitimate business function, but the IRS has been cracking down, arguing that many of the arrangements are nothing more than tax shelters. The agency has been particularly harsh on once-popular leveraged policies, in which policy loans were used to pay premiums. In the mid-1990s, the tax agency began disallowing billions of dollars in interest payment deductions the companies had been taking on such loans. Companies efforts to defend their programs have been largely unsuccessful; a U.S. Tax Court judge called Winn-Dixies program a sham, saying it lacked economic substance and business purpose.

    The controversy helped convince Walt Disney and Wal-Mart, among others, to drop the policies. Winn-Dixie battled the IRS in court, but the supermarket chain recently lost its final round when the Supreme Court refused to review a lower court decision that backed the IRS.

    So far, one company has prevailed against the IRS — Dow Chemical, which took out the policies on more than 21,000 workers. A U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Michigan ordered the IRS to return $22.2 million plus interest to the company. The IRS has appealed the ruling.

    Survivors lawsuits, meanwhile, typically focus on two issues:
    Whether the companies had an insurable interest in their employees lives.

    Whether the companies were required to get the employees permission for the policies.
    Insurable interest is usually a big deal for insurers. They want to make sure whoever is buying life insurance doesnt have an incentive for bumping off the insured. Insurers usually require purchasers have a strong familial or emotional connection to the people being insured, or that they would suffer significant financial losses if the insured people died.

    (Its that latter standard that was loosened in the 1980s, making it easier for companies to buy policies for all their employees, not just key executives.)

    Most states also have advise and consent laws that technically require companies to get workers permission before buying life insurance on them. But attorney Myers said many businesses circumvent these laws by purchasing the insurance in one of the states that doesnt require notice or consent, including Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Vermont.

    “Executives fly to Atlanta to meet with the insurance company and its brokers, sign some papers, get on their respective corporate jets and fly home, Myers said.

    Other companies offered their workers small policies — typically $5,000 to $10,000 — as an incentive to allow larger corporate-owned policies to be issued on the workers lives. The small policies can later be canceled, even if the company keeps up the premiums on the other insurance.

    Anger about these practices likely will keep the heat on Congress to make some reforms. Its possible that lawmakers will restrict severely companies ability to write the policies on rank-and-file workers. At the very least, companies probably will have to get workers consent before buying any new policies and clearly disclose that the coverage may extend past the time they leave the company, the ACLIs Dolan said.

    But he rejected the idea that corporate-owned life insurance was immoral or a company bet against its workers.

    Its an important business planning tool, Dolan said. Companies are using it for extremely valid reasons.

  243. psj says:

    Pa. Judge Sentences 3 to Learn English
    Mar 27, 2:16 PM EDT

    WILKES-BARRE, Pa. (AP) — A judge known for creative sentencing has ordered three Spanish-speaking men to learn English or go to jail.

    The men, who faced prison for criminal conspiracy to commit robbery, can remain on parole if they learn to read and write English, earn their GEDs and get full-time jobs, Luzerne County Judge Peter Paul Olszewski Jr. said.

    The men, Luis Reyes, Ricardo Dominguez and Rafael Guzman-Mateo, plus a fourth defendant, Kelvin Reyes-Rosario, all needed translators when they pleaded guilty Tuesday.

    “Do you think we are going to supply you with a translator all of your life?” the judge asked them.

    The four, ranging in age from 17 to 22, were in a group that police said accosted two men on a street in May. The two said they were asked if they had marijuana, told to empty their pockets, struck on the head, threatened with a gun and told to stay off the block.

    Attorneys for the men said they were studying the legality of the ruling and had not decided whether to appeal. One of the attorneys, Ferris Webby, suggested that the ruling was good for his client, Guzman-Mateo.

    “My client is happy,” Webby said. “I think it’s going to help him.”

    The judge sentenced the four men to jail terms of four to 24 months. But he gave the three men, who already had served at least four months, immediate parole. Reyes-Rosario remains imprisoned on an unrelated drug charge.

    Olszewski ordered the three to return with their parole officers in a year and take an English test. “If they don’t pass, they’re going in for the 24 (months),” he said.

    Olszewski is known for outside-the-box sentencing.

    He has ordered young defendants who are school dropouts to finish school. He often orders defendants to get full-time employment. But he also has his staff coordinate with an employment agency to help them find the jobs.

    © 2008 The Associated Press.

  244. BEADALONG says:

    If they are legally here, I think it’s wonderflul that they are told they must learn English.

    If they’re illegal, they need to be deported.

  245. BEADALONG says:

    Okay, the last article on business. There’s that nasty CORPORATE PERSONHOOD Law that needs to be abolished.

    I wonder though, if this was abolished, would they come up with something else?

  246. BEADALONG says:

    Well, just in case this I don’t get here anymore today/tonight, I’ll miss all of you and this site (because it will be off for the weekend). Thanks again for this site and I hope all goes well Watchdog.

  247. jo says:


    you’re just sizzling. we need more on the bigger picture as it is really about the whole. if we don’t keep up with the whole picture we can’t begin to stop them. they have attacked us on all fronts. i try to keep up on most of it, illegal immigration, all the business ripoffs, the technology manipulation, health etc. they have tainted everything. it is all inter-related. to these pigs, nothing is off-limits .one can spend way too much of one’s life checking all this stuff out.

  248. BEADALONG says:

    This is what is critical in the doctor/pharmaceutical relationship. It isn’t always in the patient’s best interest AND a few of these pharmaceutical companies also make the pesticides and they don’t like to admit that they made some people sick. They’re particularly disdainful of those with (MCS, Gulf War Syndrome & Agent Orange).



    The system that keeps working doctors abreast of medical developments is too
    reliant on drug company funding and needs an overhaul, the Canadian Medical
    Association Journal said in an editorial published Tuesday.

    The strongly worded editorial, written by the journal’s editor-in-chief, said
    giving drug companies such control over the continuing medical education of
    doctors distorts medical practice and compromises the ethical underpinnings of
    the profession.

    The author, Dr. Paul Hebert, placed much of the blame on doctors themselves,
    saying they have developed a sense of entitlement to the lavish perks often
    paired with continuing medical education or CME programs ? things like tickets
    to the ballet or professional sporting events, cruises or access to exclusive
    golf courses.

    “Over the years, the powerful pharmaceutical enticements have resulted in
    physicians believing that strong industry involvement is not only normal but
    also that they are entitled to receive the benefits. This culture of entitlement
    is one of the most difficult obstacles to overcome,” Hebert wrote.

    “We seem to have conveniently forgotten that the pharmaceutical industry is in
    business to make money, not to educate health professionals.”

    Critics of the broad influence the pharmaceutical industry exerts over medical
    education, medical journals and the prescribing practices of doctors were quick
    to endorse Hebert’s call.

    “Hear, hear.? Three cheers for Dr. Hebert,” said Arthur Schafer, director of the
    University of Manitoba’s Centre for Professional and Applied Ethics, adding that
    the current system of CME “has very little to do with education and a great deal
    to do with marketing.”

    Although there have been efforts to crack down on some of the largesse, stories
    abound of doctors being offered family cruises if they agree to sit in on a few
    hours of lectures put on by the drug company that sponsored the cruise or CME
    sessions booked at world class golf courses.

    “The problem is that you should always question the funding source,” Hebert, an
    Ottawa cardiologist, said in an interview.

    “Our professional ethics and our goal as physicians may or may not align with
    theirs. And what we’ve done is essentially fully aligned ourselves with a
    business approach, if you will. By default we’ve become as a profession entitled
    to receive all these gifts and all this support.”

    The regulatory bodies that license doctors require them to keep up with medical
    advances. Each dictates a set number of hours of CME credits doctors have to log
    every year to maintain their credentials.

    But while the college may be counting a doctor’s credits, there is no guarantee
    they are actually learning useful information in these sessions. “There’s no
    requirement for testing at any of this. I mean basically for many of these
    things, all you’re required to do is show up,” Hebert said.

    Nor is there any guarantee the information is balanced. Critics of the system
    suggest an industry-funded CME session on managing obese patients is more likely
    to focus on weight loss drugs than on lifestyle changes needed to lose weight
    and keep it off.

    Hebert’s editorial suggests that evidence shows education sponsored by drug and
    device makers “frequently distorts the topic selection, embellishes the positive
    elements of studies and downplays the adverse effects” ? focusing attention on
    drug treatments and away from disease prevention, health promotion and
    non-pharmaceutical options, such as talk therapy for depression.

    It proposes that an arm’s-length “Institute of Continuing Health Education” be
    set up to design and run continuing education programs. It suggests funding
    could be derived from governments, the medical profession and a levy on profits
    from drug and medical device patents.

    It called on the Canadian Academies of Health Sciences ? perhaps in conjunction
    with its U.S. counterpart, the Institutes of Medicine ? to start talks with
    stakeholders about how to change the system.

    This type of change is long overdue, critics suggested. “They’re on the gravy
    train,” Schafer said, speaking of physicians. “They don’t want to get off.
    The editorial noted that in the United States in 2006, $2.6 billion US was spent
    on continuing medical education for doctors, of which $1.45 billion came from
    drug or device makers.

    It noted corresponding figures for Canada are not available, but said there was
    “no evidence that the situation is any different here.

  249. BEADALONG says:

    Drat, the above article reformatted on me. Sorry about that.

  250. BEADALONG says:

    Oh, I forgot to mention this is a huge problem in the U.S. also.

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